I know i can get the crimsone sphere 4 in guadosalam by first talking to ormi and logos in the living room, the to leblanc in her room, then back to logos and ormi and then to logos's room. then that maechan guy shows up and tels me all stuff. i got this sphere when i was playing first time. (i'm now playing with the NEW GAME+) so where do i get it? none of those guys (ormi & logos and the maechan guy) aren't giving it to me! HELP NEEDED!