Is this legal?!? (warning... kinda adult discussion)

[Big D]

Statute of limitations applies to criminal offences of that kind? I thought it was only for civil suits and minor crimes...

Actually, yes, there are statute of limitation laws on almost every crime, at least in the U.S.

Espionage against the government and murder are the only crimes that I know of that lack statute laws. For rape, I think it's 20, and same for child molestation (aka, sex act with someone under 14). Statutory rape (sex act with a minor over 14 who was consenting) is just a 5 year statutory.

As for filming a sex act with a minor, only the minor did the filming, and whatever the limitations on that, it's moot as the tape would still be in someone's possession, and the charge would be for possessing the film. Statute does not apply.

Considering these new details... it looks like the other party is completely safe. The only issue is whether "you" are at risk of prosecution. I can't see how this action is fulfilling the harm principle, so I don't see that "you" have done anything prosecutable. However, since the document is of a forbidden kind, you would have to hand it to the authorities, or destroy it, if they asked you to. You could probably be prosecuted for failing to do so.

Still, it'd be hard to answer this question reliably without being able to see a copy of the statute, and the relevant case law.

[udsuna]

I'd still demand a jury trial. AND press coverage... that way, even if convicted, one could reasonably expect to make a lot of money just for the amusement and shock value.

I'm just wondering what someone would do with a case like that. I was hoping someone would know enough legal-ese to wager a more or less accurate diagnosis. Everyone else shielded, of course, I'm just wondering about the "victem/perpetrator" who is technically in violation of some pretty serious felonies.

[Big D]

I'd still demand a jury trial. AND press coverage... that way, even if convicted, one could reasonably expect to make a lot of money just for the amusement and shock value.

Unless, of course, the press decided to portray your actions in a negative light:

"Shock! Man tapes own under-age sexcapades then keeps the video - featuring himself and his 18-year-old statutory RAPIST - for his own perverse gratification!"

They could so twist this into something life-destroying. It's what the news media do best - manipulating information in the way that'll create the biggest sensation and snare the most viewers. It has nothing to do with facts or truth, especially where legal matters are concerned.

[udsuna]

"Shock! Man tapes own under-age sexcapades then keeps the video - featuring himself and his 18-year-old statutory RAPIST - for his own perverse gratification!".

And half of the country would secretly think to themselves "that is so awsome, I wish I'd thought of it".

[Big D]

Semi-philosophical question: would that act be kind of auto-erotic?

[nik0tine]

If you were a minor, and filmed a pornographic video of yourself, and then sold it, would that be illegal? (Assuming you were still a minor when the selling took place)

[udsuna]

Semi-philosophical question: would that act be kind of auto-erotic?

I dunno... probably not any more or less so than all the other filmed sex tapes produced by legal adults. A pluck at both the voyeur and exhibitionist parts of the sexual psyche, while remaining "safe" enough that the slightly less bold people can comfortably participate.

If you were a minor, and filmed a pornographic video of yourself, and then sold it, would that be illegal? (Assuming you were still a minor when the selling took place)

Hmm... I don't know... at least for the minor. As for the purchaser of the video... the word "boned" comes to mind.

[Big D]

If you were a minor, and filmed a pornographic video of yourself, and then sold it, would that be illegal? (Assuming you were still a minor when the selling took place)

Yes, because you're dealing.

[Ultima Shadow]

Oh God, this really isn't hypothetical, is it? :weep:

[udsuna]

Oh God, this really isn't hypothetical, is it? :weep:

Actually, in all honesty, it is hypothetical. But it was almost real. The only thing missing is the filming itself. And the girl involved was 21, not 18, and I was indeed 16 (oops... I guess I was molested or something, not that I'm complaining). I was intent on filming at least once, but never got the chance.

And, for some reason, recently I thought about it and this question popped up.

[Hawkeye]

Uhm, uhm, uhm...

My exact thoughts

[Social Moon Firesky]

I've got a hypothetical situation for you guys that someone might actually know the answer to.

Say you made an amature porno of yourself and someone else, when you're a minor, like... 16, yeah... and your partner is over 18. Well, if you put said video in storage, and end up uncovering it years later, when you're an adult, are you in possession of child pornography (in legal-ese, "recording the sex act of a minor")? And can you be charged with possessing such a thing, and prosecuted, despite the fact that it is YOU whom were the minor, you who filmed it, and you who was more than happy to participate in the first place?

I don't know if it's legal or not... I do know, if I was in a hypothetical trial for said hypothetical crime, I'd ask for a jury. Legal or not, who'd actually convict someone for something like that?

Come live in the UK with me! I wouldn't mind at all! Sex is legal at 16 over here, so it wouldn't be considered paedophilia. Or you could just run the tape over with your car, then burn it, then spread the ashes all over the world.

[Shin Gouken]

take it from me. destroy it

[Hawkeye]

I've got a hypothetical situation for you guys that someone might actually know the answer to.

Say you made an amature porno of yourself and someone else, when you're a minor, like... 16, yeah... and your partner is over 18. Well, if you put said video in storage, and end up uncovering it years later, when you're an adult, are you in possession of child pornography (in legal-ese, "recording the sex act of a minor")? And can you be charged with possessing such a thing, and prosecuted, despite the fact that it is YOU whom were the minor, you who filmed it, and you who was more than happy to participate in the first place?

I don't know if it's legal or not... I do know, if I was in a hypothetical trial for said hypothetical crime, I'd ask for a jury. Legal or not, who'd actually convict someone for something like that?

Come live in the UK with me! I wouldn't mind at all! Sex is legal at 16 over here, so it wouldn't be considered paedophilia. Or you could just run the tape over with your car, then burn it, then spread the ashes all over the world.

Nah nah... It's probably another one of those wierd British laws, where you can have sex at 16, but can't watch porn at 18... I'll never understand you Brits.

Bout that time eh chap?

[Social Moon Firesky]

Nah nah... It's probably another one of those wierd British laws, where you can have sex at 16, but can't watch porn at 18... I'll never understand you Brits.

Bout that time eh chap?

No, in Britain you can watch porn at whatever age, but you can't legally participate in one until you're 16.