Now we have no Feedback Forum.

[Raistlin]

I love you too, Del.

[Mr. Graves]

People worry too much about drama. The Kishi thing is settled...why delete Feedback? I don't agree with the removal of the forum at all, considering the recent downsizing of current staff and whatnot. What the hell, man....We can't speak our minds anymore? Saying what he think publicly, so that other members can have at least an "agree or disagree" with another regular member is more than a privilage that would be taken away if "abused". It's a right.

This is what I think, no holds barred. The Feedback forum was taken away due to all or most of the following:

1. Inability to handle member-staff conflict. Yes, there are stubborn people who let issues just die, but dealing with those people in a good manner is a great practice. When there's nothing more you can say other than "Tough, deal with it.", at least say it with some degree of that so that it don't see like those people aren't shut out completly.

2. "The kiddies can't handle the privilige of speak out minds about the forums in a public area, so we'll have to take that away." In case you didn't get that, I'm saying that our rights are being taken away like a child who has been grounded for a year. Except we didn't do nothing to really deserve it.

3. Personal grudges. Just because one person is a pain in the side of a certain staffer doesn't mean that they should shut him out. Refer to #1 for the reason that's been happening.

The deletion of the feedback forum is bogus, and the only positive I see is the debate over PeterL90 getting shot down considerably. But the negatives far outweigh that positive.

This is disgusting.

[Shlup]

I'm sorry you and Yams can't accept that you were out voted, Del, but the Feedback Forum was removed because most of the staff deemed it a good idea. I'm sorry everyone feels that staff members not agreeing with them means they were completely ignored, but that is ridiculous. Sorry you guys can't get your way all the time, but that's the way life is. Want Feedback back, Del? Then quit acting like a baby and re-opening closed threads. If your intention, however, is to piss me off than you have done a smashing job.

Keep your problems in the staff forum, Del, lest you turn out like D and just stir up a bunch of unneeded crap. Everyone who has agreed to have their concerns addressed via PM seems satisfied with the results.

[Yamaneko]

And somehow, against all odds, you've managed to prevail in your quest to keep kishi unbanned, despite vast opposition (while I defended you) by the rest of staff. M'kay... *whistles*

[Del Murder]

From where I sit it seems to be you who is the one stirring. Just because I bring up valid points doesn't mean you have to get defensive.

All I wanted is the opportunity for the members to speak their mind. If not in a Feedback forum, then perhaps in this one thread, for no other purpose than to show the staff what a mistake this was and perhaps change the minds of those in that 'majority' (perhaps the members would be interested in knowing what your definition of that word is).

[Shlup]

What do you mean "rest of the staff"? I wasn't the only one who wanted Kishi unbanned and you know it. Now because you two don't get your way you're turning on me. Very cute.

EDIT: Del, a staff decision has been made. If you don't agree with it and would rather continue to make a public display of it then you are welcome to leave. When you became a staff member, you agreed to uphold staff decisions, even if you don't agree with them. A lot of people seem to be forgetting that.

[Del Murder]

Not turning, simply:

'doing what's best for the board' -Raistlin

WTS? You closed it again?

[Yamaneko]

Ah, yes, the grand coalition of Shlup and Roogle.

[Shlup]

This is so inappropriate. If you can't drop it, keep it in the staff forum. The fact that you two think this behavior is acceptable in public is insane.

[Yamaneko]

A lot of good voicing our opinions in staff has done us.

[Del Murder]

This isn't about us, it's about the members. I too agree that we should keep it in the Staff Forum (though Yams has a point), but at the very least leave this open until a non staff member acts in a way that warrants its closure.

*reopens*

[Jojee]

I think removing the Feedback Forum was a totally wrong decision.

And I'm not a bitter oldbie.

[Raistlin]

*high-fives Jojo*

*has to get down on hands and knees to do so*

I think the opinion of the members is pretty clear. But then again, as it was last time.

[Quina]

What's a Feedback forum?

[YukiKiro]

good going del. seriously. we're told to PM but you guys saw fit to post an a closed thread, the ammount of hypocracy continues to accumulate.