apparently in this time which is different from anything else ever tackled before human rights need to be "suspended"
guantanmo bay in cuba arrests, tortures and holds without trial, media or lawyers,
america has already past an act "for the defense of the homeland" which includes arrest and holding without trial, the closing down and arrest of organisations and the censorship of the media
in britain the government in trying to push through an act which allows house arrest without trial by the government not judges. "for the protection of the nation and it's people"
and in europe there is a country just passed an act "for the protection of the people and the state" allowing incarciration without trial, state control of the media and government control of the courts.
the latter of those is in fact a lie. that act was passed nearly 70 years ago in 1936 in germany by an overwhelming majority in the reichstag, people at the time felt genuinely scared of communism and "the jewish problem". it wasn't signed out of hatred, greed or manelovence. it wa signed out of fear that the country was under genuine threat.
it may seem unplausible to say that our governments are at all like nazi germany, but then again in 1936 germany was still a democratic state, that changed with the above act. and we're not always going to be ruled over by labour and bush. but these acts will always be in place and there is no gurantee that our governments will be drastically different in 10 to 20 years time.
and why just now should people who have not yet stood trial be treated in the dehumanising way they are in guantanmo bay? why should america send suspects to suadi arabia, egypt, pakistan, to be badly tortured?
what gives us the right to suspend human rights of these people? it's not like they are guilty, many have been released to tell the stories of their torture. and you don't release men that you think are guilty, these men though signed confessions under torture but still we're released. so why continue with a system that obviously doesn't work?
human rights now are being ignored as "times have changed" times haven't changed. we fought the germans from the brink of defeat and didn't need these laws. we aren't on the brink of defeat here we are scared of a very small organisation that most the public knows very little about. me i'm more scared of having my door kicked down, taking to egypt tortured, then taken to cuba, held and tortured without seeing or talking to the outside world for 3 years than having a plane driven through my back window.