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[M] Jean Armstrong
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And why should townies believe that? How do we know you guys aren't trying to set us up? With an uber-protective roleclaim and one who claims pre-scramble uber-protective role.

Something is rotten in Denmark.

EDIT: Well. On second thought maybe it would make sense if white mage was the only protective role in the game. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions too quickly.

Who did you protect pre-scramble, Pakistan?
Old 02-26-2008, 08:37 PM
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Come on if I were to claim a role It would be vig to get in good with you for the killing of the prostitute. I really am a white mage.

oh and before I was the bus driver... I cant remember who I switched with.
Old 02-26-2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by [M] South Africa ^
Question to the moderators: What would regular sane cop's result from a cult member be? Would it be the same result as that of a mafia goon or something different?
"Innocent". Believing in some crazy ass cult religion isn't a crime.

EDIT: I appreciate certain town roles (eg Vigilante) may break the law and would still come up innocent. Uh...just work with it guys, it's a game.
Old 02-26-2008, 08:44 PM
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I am somewhat scared to believe your roleclaim at the moment, considering the past but maybe you are telling the truth. For me, I think South Africa is the most suspicious player.

Let's look at the evidence. First voting.

Day one South Africa first votes for NZ then switches to Germany. Day two, votes for NZ once again. Day three, does not vote for India but obviously pushing for India's lynching.

This is not too conclusive of evidence but the fact remains everyone of those people were proven Townies. Now let's look at posts.

Originally Posted by South Africa
Also: Yay town! but I'd rather we have gotten a cult member.
This is surprising since it was said on Day 5. There have been two killing fractions at night. The vigilante and the Mafia. Unless the Mafia are a bunch of idiots they did not kill their own teammate. Also, if you play into the fact that Australia just admited to being a WM, then we can deduce that there is another killer, possibly a viglante on the lose. The thing is, so far the other killer has only been killing Townies. Plus, the way South Africa worded it, makes it sound like they had inside information. Perhaps South Africa is a vig? Perhaps the fact that the other killing faction, is just having bad luck and killed mostly townies or maybe they are only eliminating other opponants. No cult members were killed yet.

Another quote:

I'm all for discussion but it could be done a lot quicker if people get their asses in gear.

So maybe I'll start. Here's what we have without analyzing the information from the night time:

UK - Called out by Germany before he died. Germany's posts will have the argument to lynch this country.

New Zealand - Top vote getter yesterday until Germany got in trouble. So I guess the reasons from yesterday would be the ones to go for this country since nothing has changed there.

China, France, Israel, Spain - did not vote but maybe they just didn't get on before the day ended early. However, they have not yet been on during this day.

I don't want to analyze the deaths from the night, or look too closely at the posts of those dead people, because they were most likely killed by SCUM, and perhaps SCUM want us to do exactly that. I'm seeing three SCUM groups this round: Mafia, Cult, and SK. That means a tall task for the town since we are already down 3 members.
Here South Africa seems hesitant to discuss anything and wants to go straight to the killing. Suspicious as that is, look at all those who they accuse! UK, NZ, China, France and Spain (myself) are all Townies. The only one we can be uncertain of is Israel. But the fact that South Africa is suspicious of the makes me want to believe they are a fellow Townie as well.

Well, additional voting gets the game moving which makes it more fun overall imo.

But if you guys want to wait out the final votes to get more discussion in then go for it.

China really hasn't done anything. Could be laying low. If the mafia have learned anything from the past games, it's that posting too much is just gonna get them in trouble. Usually there's at least one mafia member laying low, and I'm thinking that they may be utilizing the "lay low" tactic a bit more this time around.
Again, accusing China. Also it shows not a much willingness for discussion, more of a passing impatience. Plus the whole "Mafia should lie low, anyone who is not lying low is not Mafia" mentality that is hinted at here, could just be a red herring used in order to distract us from the fact that they could potentially be Mafia and that their often posting should not be suspicious.

Therefore, I cast my vote in hopes for th future of the Townies! The cult is already 5 people strong and the Mafia only lost one member. We must eliminate those who pose a threat to us!

##vote: South Africa
Old 02-26-2008, 08:45 PM
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Protection is vs kills definitely. However I don't know if it is vs recruits or not. I doubt Kofi will tell us though since confirming or denying it will mean we can know if cult can or can't recruit you tonight. Regardless cult has a lot of members now, we should probably fear that they have gotten off their full recruits meaning they will be 5 strong today.

As for the last words of India, I dunno what to say really. For starters....it's DD....and he claimed to be a bomb as a townie thus lying to everyone town included to keep himself alive, especially as a vanilla. So with that in mind it's up to you guys. Knowing psy and qwerty if there WAS 2 cops, and one being insane, the second could very well be another off type like a second insane or a paranoid or some such.

Also Australia for now your role claim seems to make some sense. I've been wondering what protective role we've had in this game. Town hasn't been the best thus far. Taking on 3 factions and so far all they have is a scrambler, a vig, and an insane cop on their side (though insane is more detrimental till they learn their insane), plus a beloved princess to hurt them by losing a day for discussion. I think it makes sense town would get a strong protector in lack of a good investigator.

That's just my 2 cents thus far. It's kind of hard to think things through real well cause of the scrambling.
Old 02-26-2008, 08:49 PM
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A white mage would be awsome.

You could protect yourself one night and another the following night. You couldn't die, ever!

*sigh* I wish i was that one.

With 5 cult and some mafia members its all getting too confusing. who is who?

There are a dozen people left, right?

That means that the cult would only need one more to lynch anyone they want!

I'm going to have to think this vote over.
Old 02-26-2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by [M] Spain ^
I am somewhat scared to believe your roleclaim at the moment, considering the past but maybe you are telling the truth. For me, I think South Africa is the most suspicious player.

Let's look at the evidence. First voting.

Day one South Africa first votes for NZ then switches to Germany. Day two, votes for NZ once again. Day three, does not vote for India but obviously pushing for India's lynching.

This is not too conclusive of evidence but the fact remains everyone of those people were proven Townies. Now let's look at posts.
Spain, you are confused. NZ was not a "proven Townie" NZ was a Serial Killer.

Suspicious as that is, look at all those who they accuse! UK, NZ, China, France and Spain (myself) are all Townies.
Again, wrong. NZ was not a townie. And voicing suspicion for various people in the first few days of the game isn't in itself suspicious. I wasn't hounding after various people going, "THIS PERSON IS SCUM!" It was just observations and initial instincts, the same kind of suspicions that plenty of people in this thread have voiced. Do not equate voicing of suspicion to voting pattern. Voting pattern is very relevant. Throwing out names in the first few days to get the ball rolling... not so much

It's strange to me that you would make this long and detailed post about how you think I'm guilty and miss out on the glaring and obvious fact that I did not vote for a townie twice, but a Serial Killer twice. A big thing to get confused about in my opinion. If you're gonna go after someone in this manner, make sure all your facts are straight. Or else it just makes you seem even more suspicious.
Old 02-26-2008, 08:59 PM
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I can see where Spain is going with his or her line of thought. Norway has behaved similarly to South Africa ... maybe they're in cahoots? Like I said, IF Australia is a White Mage, I'd be interested ot know why they protected South Africa.

I still say there's a pretty good point in investigating the people who are laying low so far into the game. What's the point in that? Especially since so many townies/pro-towns are dead.

EDIT: SA - I didn't even notice that! Good point.
Old 02-26-2008, 09:03 PM
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