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[[M] Tonks]

Way ahead of myself here but we should start planning for it now by in thread actions.

We can kill:

cl_out - but he'll be protecting himself if he's not protecting Yams most likely.

Leeza - she might be protected because of the pattern of going for the cleared people and we went for Psy last time, but I think if cl_out is the doctor he has more pressing concerns ie either himself or Yams. So I think Leeza will be safe to kill.

foa - I think foa will be safe to kill too but I actually kinda want to keep her because she sucks so bad at the game. -_-

Yams - is the cop. Might be protected by Psy. Depends on if Psy 1) gives us enough credit to think that we'd be able to figure out that Yams is the cop and 2) thinks Yams is in enough of a threat to protect him. If Yams is involved in the lynching of a mafia member today, then Psy is definitely going to protect him. If they lynch someone who's clear today, then Yams might not be protected.


Our SAFEST bet in terms of actually getting to kill someone would be Leeza. I think it's important that we keep killing the citizens one by one because it will take too long if we rely on lynching and by then the cop would have investigated us and if not us then the majority of the people already.

However this would be solved if we could just kill the cop. We could take a risk and go for Yams if they lynch someone who's a citizen, but the end result might be the same as when we went for cl_out.

Oh, but if they do end up killing one of us today, go for cl_out. It's not going to be any use if the cop is dropping subtle hints if no one else can read his subtle hints.




WHATEVER YOU DO TODAY, do not let on that you think Yams might be the cop! If anything try to draw attention AWAY from Yams by hypothesizing that other people are the cop, but don't do it in an obvious AT ALL way either because like Psy said, people shouldn't be pointing fingers because it might give the mafia ideas.

Yes I like talking to myself and no I have nothing better to do >=[ I want to practice piano but it's too late.

[[M] Tonks]

Why is Yams the cop XD ZX looks copish to me but I guess we could try to lynch him :P

[[M] Tonks]

We could go after psy for the night kill also...or Yams if others do not think he is the cop. Psy can't protect him and here is why(posted this in the other thread).



Why is Psy the doctor? That is something I don't get. He might have crappy doctor powers but he can't be THE doctor. No way Del and Miriel would allow the doctor role to go unassigned for even a day. They must have given it to someone else instead. Psy might be the fake doctor or the one that has a 50/50 chance of working but not the doctor.

The only way he is the doctor is if Del and Miriel reassigned the roles to the initial plans after day 1 but that would be complete bull!

Agree?!?!?!? or disagree?!?1/1/!!?1!?/~

[[M] Tonks]

Steeeeve xD Read my other post on why Yams is the cop. Pay attention!

Yams investigated Cid today. That means Zero's dying, you guys don't even need to vote for Zero if you don't need to, I think. He's so suspicious the townies will take him down themselves. Vote however way you think will benefit you the most.

If at all possible, draw suspicion on Yams. Now that I think of it we shouldn't go for Leeza because Leeza is just a normal citizen. All we've gotten were normal citizens so far, we really need to lynch/kill a cop or doctor or reviver or whatever.

I really think we should take a risk and go for either Yams or cl_out. I would prefer Yams but maybe we should leave that for the next night, since he would probably investigate hero tonight.... maybe. Maybe that's a risk we shouldn't take too. -_- But cl_out needs to die. Why else would he want to cop to reveal himself so damn bad in the beginning if he didn't have any way to ensure the cop wouldn't be hit? In any case the doctors need to die. If we decide to go for clout then you should DRAW suspicion on Yams being the cop, or at least that the cop role is easy to figure out. Maybe Lev can say "Oh, I see what you mean now" or "I figured it out too" or something in response to clout about the cop situation. But not in a totally obvious way? I dunno.

[[M] Tonks]

I did read it. I said if others don't think he is the cop. Not if we don't think he is the cop XD

He investigated Cid and thinks he is good XD

Yams did say he would go after us joy the next day and now he is not. Azar could draw him out and make him look like he is making crazy unfounded and inconsistant statements to start to turn the town against him. That is a possibility. If we can start to get the town against him then he will reveal his findings and then all doctors will want to protect him. Then we can go after the doctors.

I still think it is bull if psy turns out to be a real doctor.

[[M] Tonks]

Oh I was reading your post above that, didn't see the time difference.

I really want to make sure we get someone at night and not just waste our kill again, the more people down the better -_- Yet, we really need to take Yams and clout out.

Lev, Keith, should we take the risk and go for Yams/clout or take the safe route that might not be so safe in the long run and go for Cid/foa.

[[M] eestlinc]

This is probably the hardest decision we've had to make so far. If we could take out Yams or Psy, that would be a gigantic blow to them, but we've already been blocked from killing once before. If it happens again, that's another day in which we have to prove our innocence to the smarter players. I think for now I've thrown most of them off of my tracks, but who knows. I'd say this is the Godfather's call (mostly because I don't want to make a decision that could screw us over and then be held responsible )

[[M] Tonks]

cl_out is trying to persuade people not to vote for Zero. He might not die after all, and then Yams has already stated he's going to check him tonight if he doesn't die. Yams won't be a direct threat to us tonight, even if Zero dies he will probably check Roogle.

People Yams and cl_out won't go for:

Cid
cl_out
Leeza
Yamaneko
fire_of_avalon


People Yams has yet to check:

Del Murder
Roogle
Zeromus_X
theundeadhero
eestlinc
Hsu
Azar

I'm in my own group because they've checked me and cl_out as well as everyone else is still suspicious of me.

So, five people are cleared. Seven people are not, and you are two of the seven. After today's lynching, that will be 6 people, and only 4 who are not actually mafia. The number of "cleared" people who are not mafia will outnumber the not yet cleared ones, and it will only keep growing.

Still, killing Yams is a HUGE risk. If we kill Cid tonight, it will send a message to cl_out that we also know who the cop is. That would cause him to protect Yams the next night for sure, right? Again, it's a huge risk though, because he may have pre-empted that. If we DO go for Yams or cl_out tonight, worst case scenario tomorrow we may end up with six cleared people.

If we don't and go for a cleared person, we end up with the same number - five, tomorrow. But the not cleared list keeps getting smaller. We won't be able to win.

So I think our only choice is that we have to go after Yams or cl_out. We take the risk, and if we take the wrong risk we're smurfed. If we take the right risk that is a huge advantage for us. But we take the risk. Do you guys agree?

If you do, then the only question would be Yams or cl_out?