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[Nominus Experse]

Originally Posted by Materia Hunter Yuffie ^

I have to go with Vader

Did Vader obliterate ENTIRE FREAKING PLANETS with only the force?

No.

Thus, refer to this simple inequation:

Nihilus > Vader

[Bart's Friend Milhouse]

Read the graphic novels and you'll find Vader is by no means a wuss. What he did in Episodes 3-6 was nothing to what he did off-screen. Cruel, abusive of his powers, Vader also sent assassins after his own assassins, obliterating innocent bystanders after condemning others to death for exactly the same crime and was potentially on course to treacherously overthrow Palpatine, and the Emperor knew it

[Noctiluca]

I choose Sidious because I'm in love with him and biased.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I have always loved Vader, and I still do, but I have to say that Revan pwns all.

Revan > Vader > All

[Fuego]

Darth Fuego !!

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[Ryushikaze]

Originally Posted by link31793 ^

For me, Darth Maul. Hes half bad-ass, half kick-ass, well really now hes just 2 halves. he was the first sith lord I saw do battle. And hes got an awesome design. ONly reason he lost was because he under-estimated Obi Wan. If he didn't, Vader would have never existed. And he had a dual lightsaber. That kicked ass.

Actually, the dual sided lightsaber is an incredibly stupid design, and it is a testament to Ray Park's skill that he could actually wield it with any effectiveness, even in a mock duel.

Originally Posted by Nominus Experse ^

Originally Posted by Materia Hunter Yuffie ^

I have to go with Vader

Did Vader obliterate ENTIRE FREAKING PLANETS with only the force?

No.

Thus, refer to this simple inequation:

Nihilus > Vader

Well, by writer Fiat, Vader is the strongest by potential, as is Luke. They just haven't achieved that potential. Also, Didn't Nihilus need a device to help him crush the planets with the force?

[Nominus Experse]

Originally Posted by Ryushikaze ^

Originally Posted by link31793 ^

For me, Darth Maul. Hes half bad-ass, half kick-ass, well really now hes just 2 halves. he was the first sith lord I saw do battle. And hes got an awesome design. ONly reason he lost was because he under-estimated Obi Wan. If he didn't, Vader would have never existed. And he had a dual lightsaber. That kicked ass.

Actually, the dual sided lightsaber is an incredibly stupid design, and it is a testament to Ray Park's skill that he could actually wield it with any effectiveness, even in a mock duel.

Originally Posted by Nominus Experse ^

Originally Posted by Materia Hunter Yuffie ^

I have to go with Vader

Did Vader obliterate ENTIRE FREAKING PLANETS with only the force?

No.

Thus, refer to this simple inequation:

Nihilus > Vader

Well, by writer Fiat, Vader is the strongest by potential, as is Luke. They just haven't achieved that potential. Also, Didn't Nihilus need a device to help him crush the planets with the force?

Hmm, very true... But potential is worthless unless it is had.

And as for Nihilus needing a device to aid him in total annihilation of select planets, I am not certain as to if he did or did not need one. I do believe that he could only destroy certain planets, however, saying that they were "force-sensitive"... or something to that effect. I am a tad hazy...

Hmmm...

[Ender]

Originally Posted by Ryushikaze ^

Also, Didn't Nihilus need a device to help him crush the planets with the force?

I'm pretty certain not. Might you be thinking of the Mass Shadow Generator that the Exile used to destroy Malachor V? If so, Nihilus didn't have it.

Strictly speaking, Nihilus didn't "use the Force" to destroy planets either.

He represented a void in the Force that he could use to his advantage by leaching/sucking the Force from his extended surroundings. I believe a "Force Vampire" is probably a good analogy, though on a massive scale. He destroyed planets by depriving them of the Force, which killed the life of those planets (and I believe leaving them as lifeless rocks in space as opposed to exploding them or ripping them apart--though I could be mistaken). This is also why the Exile was able to defeat him where any other Jedi could not, because the Exile himself was a void and channeled the Force through others as Nihilus did, so when the dark lord tried to channel the Force through the Exile he only weakened himself.