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Originally Posted by Moon Rabbits ^
Originally Posted by Rye ^


Of Mice And Men references were lawl.

Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong, but Ben (or some Other, but I think it's Ben) has a tumor in his spine, and they need Jack to fix it, and only he can?
Yes they are.

I think the tumor is in Ben's spine and that he already knows it is. Remember when Ben told Jack he would need to do something for the Others and he could go home, it's probably the surgery. And here I was thinking it was gonna be killing someone or something.

Originally Posted by Miriel ^
But everyone else is just blaaaah. What was the point of Sawyer's flashback? It seemed so useless to include it. The only mildly interesting thing was that he has a daughter but even that wasn't worth the flashbacks taking up time that could have been used to push the story forward. Boo to that!
I think that the flashback developed Sawyer's character rather well, after all, in the end of the episode he wound up giving his cut of the money to his daughter Clementine and now we all know he's not a heartless bastard.

The preview for next weeks episode was AMAZING. Mullet mentioned an eye patch, to me it looked like tribal face paint on the guy who's standing right in front of the camera. Either way, it was creepy as hell and I can't wait for that episode.

I noticed that the plot is moving unbearably slow, but relationships are developing quickly. Sawyer+Kate's relationship has moved forward alot more in these 4 episodes than it did for the first two seasons, I think. I'm glad that Kate is finally making up her mind instead of going "I LOVE YOU JACK, LET'S HAVE A MILLION BABIES." and then five seconds later going "I LOVE YOU SAWYER, LET'S HAVE SEX ON THESE ROCKS AS I STEAL YOUR GUN."

Jin should die and Sun+Sayid should hook up <33

Also, did the whole thing with the two islands confuse anyone? Well, it didn't really confuse me, but it's importance did. Wow, two islands right beside eachother. :\ I speculate that the hatches connect these islands though, perhaps the Hydra is in the water in between the two islands?

And that whole pacemaker thing? What was the point!?! All it really did was show us (and the Others) that Sawyer cares about Kate, because he didn't tell her anything and didn't escape with her, and that Kate cares about him because she wouldn't leave without him. Big deal, we knew they liked eachother already.

The scene where Kate is having "Do you love him?" screamed at her was far less awesome than I expected, I was hoping it would be some dramatic torture scene like the previews led us to believe, not soem crappy "smack yo' face up" scene.

The two new random survivors = lame.

P.S. Boone is sexy kthnx.
Uh, it was Ana Lucia who had sex with Sawyer to get his gun.
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I think pretty much everyone already knew that Sawyer is not a heartless bastard.

I understand that the whole show has been based on the whole, eyelid-opening-stare-off-into-the-distance-boom-flashback-thingy. But I seriously think the show could benefit from moving away from that format and focusing more on moving the story forward on the Island. I don't think they should include flashbacks for the sake of including flashbacks (as I feel it was the case in this last episode with Sawyer) but only including the flashbacks when the flashbacks really help develop a character and also the story. I don't think Sawyer's latest flashback was necessary, AT ALL. There were a few interesting tidbits about him but nothing more than that.
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Originally Posted by Moon Rabbits ^
The third season is moving far too slow for my liking. It's been 3 episodes and so far all we know is:

- Where Kate, Jack, and Sawyer are.
- Just how advanced the Others are.
- The hatch is now gone, imploded.

Or at least, that's all I've gained from the third season. The episodes are too much of nothing. I mean, they've dropped everything of interest from the first season (numbers, Ruissou, the monster, as mentioned above), and resolved one of the three biggest questions (imo) of the second season, like so:

- What are the Others intentions for JKS?
- Where is the hatch storyline headed? Nowhere, it's exploded!
- Where are Michael and Walt?

Or at least, those were the questions I was asking at the end of the second season.

Well, the fourth episode looks like it is going to be interesting enough to keep my attention for more than 5 minutes. Emotionally charged torture scenes, all right!

I agree with you. Since season 2 things have slowed down, and a lot of interesting storylines haven't been mentioned in a long time.

I think things might be moving a bit faster than Season 2, even though it's still slow.

Apparently Lost is starting to lose viewers due to the slower pace. Hopefully that will make the writers speed things up even more.
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Originally Posted by Flying Mullet ^
Originally Posted by Rye ^
Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong, but Ben (or some Other, but I think it's Ben) has a tumor in his spine, and they need Jack to fix it, and only he can?
I'm going to assume that it's not Ben, but a different "Other", that has the tumor. If you remember last week's preview, it showed scenes of Sawyer being tortured (we now know if was the shot they were giving him) with the sound bit of Kate being "interrogated" and saying she loves him. Since we know that the scenes they visually show don't necessarily align with the souds bites, Jack could have been talking to anyone when he mentions the tumor.
I'm with you on this. I personally think it's the mysterious "He", who Ben mentioned, and was terrified of in season 2.
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The Others seem to have something to do with the Dharma initiative.

Am I the only one who really wants to see what happens next with the smoke monster?
From what Juliet said to Jack, they used to be with the Dharma Initiative, but now they're not.

Nope!
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Well, now nobody is. The Dharma initiative is a thing of the past. Learnign about the initiative is learning about the Others.
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Originally Posted by Kirobaito ^

Uh, it was Ana Lucia who had sex with Sawyer to get his gun.
Kate's still a whore.

Originally Posted by Miriel ^
I think pretty much everyone already knew that Sawyer is not a heartless bastard.

I understand that the whole show has been based on the whole, eyelid-opening-stare-off-into-the-distance-boom-flashback-thingy. But I seriously think the show could benefit from moving away from that format and focusing more on moving the story forward on the Island. I don't think they should include flashbacks for the sake of including flashbacks (as I feel it was the case in this last episode with Sawyer) but only including the flashbacks when the flashbacks really help develop a character and also the story. I don't think Sawyer's latest flashback was necessary, AT ALL. There were a few interesting tidbits about him but nothing more than that.
True, but it's also interesting to have two different timelines going. The story on the island is more interesting, but so is some of the stuff off the island. Sun's flashback episode was especially good, and in my opinion developed Sun alot. However, I do see where you are coming from with the Sawyer flashbacks.

Originally Posted by roto13-ness ^
Well, now nobody is. The Dharma initiative is a thing of the past. Learnign about the initiative is learning about the Others.
Episode 7, the first episode of the second arc of the third season (mouthful), is supposedly a Juliet-centric episode and has flashbacks detailing how she got involved with the Dharma Initiative. I cannot wait 3 months to see this.
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Originally Posted by Moon Rabbits ^

Originally Posted by Miriel ^
I think pretty much everyone already knew that Sawyer is not a heartless bastard.

I understand that the whole show has been based on the whole, eyelid-opening-stare-off-into-the-distance-boom-flashback-thingy. But I seriously think the show could benefit from moving away from that format and focusing more on moving the story forward on the Island. I don't think they should include flashbacks for the sake of including flashbacks (as I feel it was the case in this last episode with Sawyer) but only including the flashbacks when the flashbacks really help develop a character and also the story. I don't think Sawyer's latest flashback was necessary, AT ALL. There were a few interesting tidbits about him but nothing more than that.
True, but it's also interesting to have two different timelines going. The story on the island is more interesting, but so is some of the stuff off the island. Sun's flashback episode was especially good, and in my opinion developed Sun alot. However, I do see where you are coming from with the Sawyer flashbacks.
To me the flashbacks are an integral part of the show. They could be lessened, but should not be removed completely.
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Sometimes I prefer the flashback than the present show. I thought this weeks flashback wasnt that great though. Even though it had the guy from Predator in it ( loving it ), it just told the same Sawyer story again, but this time in Prison.

I dont like how the others are being such bastards now, hell I dont like how much the show has changed. They should go back to trees getting ripped out of the ground and polar bears going on a rampage.

I hope they mean it when they said the show is going to change forever next episode. Although they didnt say for the better, so I wont hold my breathe.
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