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Originally Posted by Hsu ^
Close minded much?
Not to mention completely ignorant. Oh well, if people want to make themselves look like fools, then so be it.

Hip Hop and Rap is an expression, it's a lifestyle, it's whatever you make of it. You can like it or not, that doesn't matter, it's your personal choice. But to say "rap is just this, blah blah" or "it's RETARDS ATTEMPTING POETRY LOL" is pretty much just dumb. It takes talent and skill just like any other form of expression, and if you tried it you'd most likely suck at it, and suck at it horribly.

Everything has origins and reasons for existing, rap is no different, and though yes today's mainstream rap music is pretty much horrible, it doesn't speak for all rap music that exists, 50 Cent does not represent the entire genre of rap, nor hip hop nor anything else you care to mention, and basing a vastly varied genre such as rap and hiphop on the mainstream is just silly.

Yes, yes it is. Every song sounds exactly the same and usually has to do with the same things too. I wish for a rap saying how ty rappers are like 50 Cent and all his little folk. If rap wasn't made, the music world would still be all.......

METAL!!!!!
Yeah, because Metal totally doesn't have thousands of crappy bands that all sound the same with unorignal boring riffs, angsty crap vocals, and utterly e music.

Don't get me wrong, I believe personally that the most talented musicians around today are the ones making Metal, GOOD metal, but the amount of utter crap that comes out of the metal scene makes rap look amazing. Though, seeing as you seem to like Linkin Park I don't think you know what you're talking about anyway.
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The majority of rap IMO is horrible, but a few are actually decent. I've not listened to any rap song that goes above average because most of them seem to have the same beat, just with different instruments and lyrics.
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Originally Posted by DK ^
Originally Posted by Hsu ^
Close minded much?
Not to mention completely ignorant. Oh well, if people want to make themselves look like fools, then so be it.

Hip Hop and Rap is an expression, it's a lifestyle, it's whatever you make of it. You can like it or not, that doesn't matter, it's your personal choice. But to say "rap is just this, blah blah" or "it's RETARDS ATTEMPTING POETRY LOL" is pretty much just dumb. It takes talent and skill just like any other form of expression, and if you tried it you'd most likely suck at it, and suck at it horribly.

Everything has origins and reasons for existing, rap is no different, and though yes today's mainstream rap music is pretty much horrible, it doesn't speak for all rap music that exists, 50 Cent does not represent the entire genre of rap, nor hip hop nor anything else you care to mention, and basing a vastly varied genre such as rap and hiphop on the mainstream is just silly.

Yes, yes it is. Every song sounds exactly the same and usually has to do with the same things too. I wish for a rap saying how ty rappers are like 50 Cent and all his little folk. If rap wasn't made, the music world would still be all.......

METAL!!!!!
Yeah, because Metal totally doesn't have thousands of crappy bands that all sound the same with unorignal boring riffs, angsty crap vocals, and utterly e music.

Don't get me wrong, I believe personally that the most talented musicians around today are the ones making Metal, GOOD metal, but the amount of utter crap that comes out of the metal scene makes rap look amazing. Though, seeing as you seem to like Linkin Park I don't think you know what you're talking about anyway.

LP is not the only thing i like tho, in fact its one of my least favorite bands that i like, compared to everything else like Iron Maiden Metallica, and such.
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I personally hate the majority of mainstream rap music. It sounds nothing like singing to me. Not to mention most of the songs are about the same subject. As far as I know, the only good rap worth listening to is underground or anything made before the mid-90's.
Old 08-21-2006, 08:51 PM
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Most definetly yes
Rap is another form of blending music with words in a somewhat arguably creative way. As long as it contains some sort of melody even if a little repetitive it still marks down as containing some musical content. A lot of recent raps (certainly not too my taste) are tracks in which the artists pinch a few notes from a popular song, have it played over and over again, slap in a beat and begin incoherently babbling over it. Mind you there have been a few good raps out there but unfortunately the modern-day tasteless versions have overshadowed the genre as a whole resulting in a lot of people branding it as crap
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Originally Posted by Arrianna ^
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I've heard that Rap is an acronym for "rhythm and poetry" which if it's true, then no rap isn't music. Because if it was, then stupid beatniks reciting poetry to some bongos would have to be considered music too.
Yes, and no one argues that beatnik freeform is music but it was never so popular either. If it had been you can be sure that there would be claims it was. It is as if by saying it's music they somehow become "legitimate". I just don't see the point. Why not accept what it is and rejoice in it? It's not like it is lessened by not being music, only by how it is expressed. Oh, how popular expression lesses it every year.
At least someone acknowledges what I say, sheesh. Hell, even if it isn't music, I listen to some of it. I genuinely like a small portion of rap.
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Rap < Classical Music
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Originally Posted by Meta-Knight ^
I personally hate the majority of mainstream rap music. It sounds nothing like singing to me. Not to mention most of the songs are about the same subject. As far as I know, the only good rap worth listening to is underground or anything made before the mid-90's.
You're just not exposed to alot of it. You probably only hear some of the stuff that's on the radio. Some popular rappers (Common for example) that are really good don't get as much air time as people who are marketed better (50 Cent for example). As with mostly every genre of music...
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