do you consider rap to be music? IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE - Page 2

IBCrayZ · 08-21-2006, 02:46 AM

I don't like it. But I still think it is music. Like the wiki quote said, it is an artistic form of expression using vocal tones. While I don't consider it good music at all, it still is music none the less. It really is all about expression. But I do agree that it is bringing down the English language even further.

lovehurts · 08-21-2006, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by I Took the Red Pill ^

You're probably referring to most of the mainstream rap, lovehurts. 50 Cent, TI, Ja Rule. I'll agree that most of them suck. But you have to look at all aspects of it. Have you listened to any "underground" rap? I think if you listened to some of it, often having politically charged or deep messages in them, you might see it in a different light. It's ridiculous to say that all rap requires no talent. Some underground rappers write genius songs. Go listen to Talib Kweli or Wyclef Jean (his solo career), and it might change your mind.

I posted this thread hoping to see something like this. I feel that rap is so bad right now. This post is something different. It was open minded and thoughtfull enough to suggest that I would be open minded enough to further examine something I currently dont like. I respect that and I think Im going to seek out the "underground rap"

Thank you.

Also I want to thank the others as well. I'll give rap another chance. I love when a thread can change my mind. I'll try to be more open minded.

daggertrepe · 08-21-2006, 02:49 AM

Some rap's ok, then some is just disgusting.

Dreddz · 08-21-2006, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by lovehurts ^

NO TALENT IN RAP.

Biased. You obviously dont like rap, so you fail to see talent. And when does talent come into this, even if someone had no talent, he can still create a melody, which believe it or not, is music.

lovehurts · 08-21-2006, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dreddz ^

Originally Posted by lovehurts ^

NO TALENT IN RAP.

Biased. You obviously dont like rap, so you fail to see talent. And when does talent come into this, even if someone had no talent, he can still create a melody, which believe it or not, is music.

MAybe you are right....I guess the thread is still open either way

I am going to listen to some "underground rap" so I can actually be more fair. Even if I dont like it some one does, but if I still hate it I'll let you all know.

Crushed Hope · 08-21-2006, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by Zeromus_X ^

Edit: Wikipedia isn't a 100% reliable source.

Doesn't music always have to have a melody? Of course, it's been so long since I've taken anything regarding music...

But yeah, don't consider it music. Or at least not good music. But if you really enjoy it, more power to ya.

No, it does not. Atonal stuff is totally devoid of melody, and yet is still able to be considered music.

Genji · 08-21-2006, 03:07 AM

Rap is music as long as it has some good talent in it, like:

The Old Light by Fat Jon and Nujabes
Think Different by Fat Jon
Feather by Fat Jon

And some others.

Giga Guess · 08-21-2006, 03:13 AM

Honestly, I like some rap...by and large, I don't like the genre, but there are songs in it I do like. Gangsta rap, I loathe, just my opinion.

However to say something like this, and exclude those who would disagree with you from the conversation, I find to be rather narrow minded.

IBCrayZ Pantless Ninja! Location: Right behind you...without any pants	#9 I don't like it. But I still think it is music. Like the wiki quote said, it is an artistic form of expression using vocal tones. While I don't consider it good music at all, it still is music none the less. It really is all about expression. But I do agree that it is bringing down the English language even further.
08-21-2006, 02:46 AM

daggertrepe Clumsy Heart Location: Pennsylvania	#11 (permalink) Some rap's ok, then some is just disgusting.
08-21-2006, 02:49 AM

Dreddz Sacrilicious Location: London Town	#12 (permalink) Originally Posted by lovehurts ^ NO TALENT IN RAP. Biased. You obviously dont like rap, so you fail to see talent. And when does talent come into this, even if someone had no talent, he can still create a melody, which believe it or not, is music.
08-21-2006, 02:49 AM

Genji Banned Location: Ostrheinsburg Castle	#15 (permalink) Rap is music as long as it has some good talent in it, like: The Old Light by Fat Jon and Nujabes Think Different by Fat Jon Feather by Fat Jon And some others.
08-21-2006, 03:07 AM

Giga Guess Recognized Member The flying homo! Location: Running through the streets...naked!	#16 (permalink) Honestly, I like some rap...by and large, I don't like the genre, but there are songs in it I do like. Gangsta rap, I loathe, just my opinion. However to say something like this, and exclude those who would disagree with you from the conversation, I find to be rather narrow minded.
08-21-2006, 03:13 AM