Originally Posted by
John_912 ^ So I take it you didn't have a problem with Spider-Man 1? Because that film kind of had a paper thin plot. Peter and MJ's relationship wasn't very deep and meaningful in my opinion I think it was about as deep and meaningful as Bruce and Vicki's relationship in the 1989 Batman film...which wasn't very deep and meaningful at all.
Well, first of all I hope that you don't mean that a film has a paper-thin plot if one of its
subplots doesn't get enough development. Spider-Man's plot is more complex than just the Peter & MJ drama (which was also nice in the way it was shown in the film, particularly the touching finale). After all, you have Peter's character development in quite many ways (with all the tragic circumstances as well as finding out what it takes to be a hero), and you have Norman Osborn's stuff, Harry, and various other things going on. Sure, Spider-Man isn't the most complex film out there, but I don't think that it has a paper-thin plot.
Originally Posted by
John_912 ^ Nobody has defended the Star Wars prequels or Superman Returns yet so I guess I won the agrument with those films.
Well, the Star Wars prequels aren't thin on plot. There's quite a bit going on in the films even if it's sometimes presented in a jumbled way. Even if the plot could've worked out better on screen, it still has quite a few things going on in it. After all, Anakin's character arc (as well as his relationships with various people), Palpatine's gradual rise to power and the Sith manipulation of events as well as the conflict itself are just some of the many plots that take place in the prequels.
As for Superman Returns, although its plot isn't the most complex one out there, it does offer many character arcs in it, and I like how Superman gets some development and how the plot does offer subtle nuances that make it richer. There are quite a few things going on in the film, although the most important thing is obviously the issues between Lois Lane and Superman as well as the "savior" parallels.
Similarly Tim Burton's Batman films aren't really paper-thin as far as plot is concerned. Sure, some of the things they present might be straightforward, but there's so much going on in both films (particularly in Batman Returns) that I can't really see the plots being paper-thin. Others have already pointed out some things that show that Burton's films aren't "thin" at least as far as plot is concerned.
08-15-2008, 09:34 PM
