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[Psychotic]

Yeah, I'm excited about Moffat. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances and The Girl in the Fireplace are probably my favourite episodes of the new Who, and the other two mentioned weren't half bad either.

Although I do think the other three finales were all great (Last of the Time Lords especially, with the exception of Gollum-Doctor) and first two in this group of three were great, so Russel T. Davies hasn't exactly done a bad job. Far from it.

[I Don't Need A Name]

the one thing that annoys me about this doctor who, is the BBCs constant use of morals.
Everytime it comes to facing an enemy, the doctor ALWAYS tries to save the evil creature. (this time davros)
what ever happened to the good old doctor who with 1000 on screen deaths an episode and him wiping out the enemy in each episode

[Psychotic]

He still does it sometimes though. Remember the way he wiped out the Raknos's babies in that Christmas episode which scared Donna? Or how he handed out individual punishments to that family of scarecrow alien thingies?

[Spiffing Cheese]

It wouldn't have been quite as bad if the lead-up to the finale hadn't been so good. I just don't get what happened. We were all waiting for something spectacular.

It wasn't as bad as Voyage of the Damned, though. I suppose there's that.

Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF

Spoiler: What I'm mainly annoyed about is that this ending is not likely to be final in any way. The Daleks will be back at some point. Rose could very likely be back at some point, even though this is about the third time the ways between the dimensions are closing forever. He keeps saying that, but mere Humans can find ways to get to other dimensions. And it wouldn't surprise me to see Donna come back.

Spoiler: Nothing in Doctor Who is ever final, and the effect of everything is lessened considerably every time they do a LOOK WHO'S COMING BACK! story. The Daleks aren't even remotely creepy anymore, and bringing them back after they totally degraded them, with the spinning around and PUSHING them away and laughing, will just be pushing it too damn far. Not that that will stop them.

Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF

Spoiler: Oh, yeah, and they can't remind Donna of anything, supposedly? Well it seems to me that they can take quite a risk there, seeing as coming face-to-face with The Doctor and talking to him didn't jog her memory.

Spoiler: I didn't understand that at all. How does seeing him face to face and SPEAKING to him not remind me of it? I don't get it!

[Quin]

I was under the impression that Dalek shots do not "injure". One hit kill, I thought.

Yet another series with the grumpy old depressed Doctor....

[Balzac]

I thought the shot only side swiped him as it trails on off camera when he is hit.

Also, I hope they have a 3rd series of Torchwood with Martha and Mickey, that's be aces.

I loved this final episode, I thought it was a great way to end. Who cares about all the Deus Ex Machina? It's sci-fi and the one rule of sci-fi is "It doesn't have to make sense, it's smurfing sci-fi".

As for Steve Moffat taking over writing, I think I said earlier on in the thread that I was excited about this when I read about it a few months ago.

[Quin]

Oh yeah, Moffat's are brilliant. I can't wait to see more of him!

[I'm my own MILF]

Originally Posted by Balzac ^

It's sci-fi and the one rule of sci-fi is "It doesn't have to make sense, it's smurfing sci-fi".

It depresses the out of me to see something like this. I want to know where sci-fi went wrong, if a complete lack of internal consistency is acceptable and even expected. Sci-fi doesn't have to have any bearing on the real world, but it does have to be coherent. Doctor Who isn't sci-fi, it's just silliness that uses sci-fi tropes.

Or you might be right, and an attempt at internal consistency, overarching plot, coherent characters, and general believability isn't why Babylon 5 is one of the greatest things ever made.