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[Old Manus]

As opposed to no beats or choruses, and indeed, no sound whatsoever

[Ryth]

He would've been a lot better with some decent production, in my opinion. I don't necessarily agree with Nominus, but I see what he means.


Assuming Nominus' post wasn't just trolling, anyway.

[Nominus Experse]

Ryth basically spoke for me.

What I mean to say is that I appreciate the lyrical methodology of Eminem, and have found that many of his lyrics are founded in the wonderful vein of poetry. But they begin to decay once the other elements are added into the "musical production", which can be anything from recursive beats and popular influences to simply leading into a bland, tasteless foray of popular music.

And no, Hazzard, there is nothing wrong with being rapper, and it was rather inane of you to extrapolate such a thing from my post.

In short, what I am saying is that if he had been a poet, I would read and likely enjoy his poetry. But as it stands, he is a rapper - a popular one at that - and with such a title and "acting position", he has lost much of the lyrical genius to the surrounding affairs of that particular musical genre's nature of today.


I could say the same of a select few other rappers, but we are speaking of Eminem at the moment.

[Ryth]

Originally Posted by Nominus Experse ^

And no, Hazzard, there is nothing wrong with being rapper, and it was rather inane of you to extrapolate such a thing from my post.

I think we can forgive Hazzard for that, considering how much needless, stupid hate the rap genre has gotten here on EoFF. Overall, it is one of the more polarizing genres today anyway.

I more or less agree with your stance, Eminem has powerful lyrics but everything else is bland and annoying (a position I have previously made clear). Instead of him being a poet in the traditional sense, I'd rather him just get some decent beats going on. Now I really don't listen to Eminem outside of nostalgic purposes, I used to really be into him. Now it's all just Liquid Swords and Organized Konfusion, baby.

[ShlupQuack]

Eminem amuses the hell outta me. I'll download it.

[TyphoonThaReapa]

Originally Posted by Nominus Experse ^

Ryth basically spoke for me.

What I mean to say is that I appreciate the lyrical methodology of Eminem, and have found that many of his lyrics are founded in the wonderful vein of poetry. But they begin to decay once the other elements are added into the "musical production", which can be anything from recursive beats and popular influences to simply leading into a bland, tasteless foray of popular music.

And no, Hazzard, there is nothing wrong with being rapper, and it was rather inane of you to extrapolate such a thing from my post.

In short, what I am saying is that if he had been a poet, I would read and likely enjoy his poetry. But as it stands, he is a rapper - a popular one at that - and with such a title and "acting position", he has lost much of the lyrical genius to the surrounding affairs of that particular musical genre's nature of today.


I could say the same of a select few other rappers, but we are speaking of Eminem at the moment.

Actually, I know exactly where your coming from. And honestly, I won't argue with your views and opinions. The only thing I have to say is that almost nothing is entirely perfect. But even if most of you guys dislike Eminem or the entire genre of Rap/Hip Hop for that matter, it doesn't mean that it will disappear off the face of the Earth. With that being said, I'm still going to get Eminem's new CD when it comes out and try my best to enjoy it.