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[Odaisé Gaelach]

Originally Posted by ValiantKnight ^

So if FEAR extraction point, at medium settings plays at around 19-38fps, and everquest plays around this same FPS on raids of 50 people in 2-3year old areas, and groups(6) people in the brand new areas, that means everquest is equal to FEAR?

Not exactly. With Everquest, before the computer can render each frame it has to wait for data from an internet server. If that server becomes slow or bogged down with connections, then it takes longer for your computer to receive the data needed to render each frame.

It's like that with my computer too: Second Life usually is as slow as S.T.A.L.K.E.R. on very high detail settings, if not slower. When playing Unreal Tournament 1999 against the AI, it renders hundreds of frames per second; when I'm playing online, it drops to around 30 and becomes choppy.

With FEAR, the computer doesn't need to wait for data from an Internet server before it renders each frame. But because it has higher system requirements than Everquest, it's harder on your computer and runs slow on it.

Originally Posted by ValiantKnight ^

Well which component would you turn to if that means video/system is not the problem... which I'm not sure that it proves.

The problem's not with your computer, it's with the Everquest server itself.

[ValiantKnight]

Forgive me for failing to grasp it but how do others in game claim they have no frame rate problems or lag?

I do not have "lag" in the sense of the word it is in First person shooters, and fast paced games, where a player can "Warp", "ghost", "skip", "slow down/speed up".

However it'll be running at 60-80 fps looking at open flat 3d generated countryside, then turn around and look at a town of 30+ vendors with 10-15 players running around in it, and it drops to 20-30. Crank that up to 60 people running around, and it gets much lower framerate.


Hmm, if it is internet related and nothing to do with the computer, then...

Linksys BEFSR41 4 port switch/firewall nat router
firmware 1.43.3 looks to be outdated, so maybe I'll upgrade that.

Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller

So this is all my internet connection then, which is fast, but apparently has some kind of weird latency or horrible problem that creates this framerate?

[Omecle]

I know that in Final Fantasy XI, when you are at a popular auction house (used to be Jeuno, now is Whitegate), it will lag a lot. This isn't because of my computer specs (2.13GHZ Core 2 Duo, 7800GS, 2GB RAM) but because of the game's servers dealing with hundreds of players in a compact area that are accessing a lot of code in the game. (hell, I can run bioshock on max settings at 1600x1050 smoothly!)

It sounds like you're having a similar problem, and it generally has to do with either your connection, your ISP, or the game's servers. Make sure you have all the corresponding ports forwarded (usually documentation from the developers will tell you ideal ports to open).

Not sure what else. Everquest is a very old game and should run absolutely fine on any system built in the last 7 years...

[o_O]

I think Odaisé probably hit the nail on the head by suggesting it's your internet connection, because it doesn't matter what the resolution is. You might want to check that your ISP doesn't shape that type of traffic. You'll also want to check that you have the correct ports forwarded in your router. You can check how to do that here if you need.

You don't need to buy a new graphics card, especially not a 8800gtx/gts/gt/anything, and don't listen to anyone who tells you that you do. The general concensus seems to be that DirectX 10 features thus far are pretty expendable and cost a whole load more than a card almost as powerful like a 7950.
I was able to run Oblivion on my 6600gt with medium settings, so I have no doubt your card is more than capable of running Everquest.

[Mirage]

Originally Posted by Omecle ^

I know that in Final Fantasy XI, when you are at a popular auction house (used to be Jeuno, now is Whitegate), it will lag a lot. This isn't because of my computer specs (2.13GHZ Core 2 Duo, 7800GS, 2GB RAM) but because of the game's servers dealing with hundreds of players in a compact area that are accessing a lot of code in the game. (hell, I can run bioshock on max settings at 1600x1050 smoothly!)

By lag, do you mean high latency, or low frame rate?

[Discord]

Originally Posted by Renmiri ^

Originally Posted by Discord ^

Originally Posted by Renmiri ^

I think he is using PCXs2 right ? 10 fps is all I get with it too. Try their forum, there are people who get over 100 FPS with it

Those people have Alienware PCs with 4 TB, 4 GB RAM and 4x 3GHz CPUs.

** Dies of envy!! **

Exactly! I wouldn't mind having one either, but considering the fact that it'll cost me about 13 000 Euro (monitor not included), I might just as well spend them on something else. Link's below:

Alienware: Area-51 ALX Desktop s- Learn More!

You can try configuring it and see what happens. It's, simply put, insane. Even the PS3 is a doodle compared to that thing.

[ValiantKnight]

Mine is low framerate.

Basically I was deciding whether to spend a smaller amount on a 7600GT 256mb and replace or buy another ram stick, and perhaps replace/get an extra fan. Since I really don't plan on getting into a higher end game or anything close to requiring the power of a newer system to my knowledge. Vista is still buggy and I doubt I'll go to it for a long time.

So for 2~ years, I want to make this system run my game, and do normal things, no video editing, no first person shooters. It's only been january~ 2006 when I upgraded it to this, and hence the wondering why it was slowing down so soon.

I've configured the router to forward all ports mentioned, according to the company, the game does not really do much incoming unless it was actually first generated by the PC, but I forwarded them anyway. (most firewalls will let in a packet if an outgoing packet generated it, or something to that effect, ie... in response to. At least most residential firewall/routers will).

Change ISPs? or how would I go about investigating the ISP and if it is contributing to the low framerate.

Thanks again for all the responses.

[o_O]

You can probably find out from your current ISP's website (or from their tech support) if they're shaping gaming applications or ports.

It may not be your ISP that's slowing you down though. If you're using wireless, you should have a strong signal without interference. Regardless, you definitely shouldn't have more than 2 metres of ADSL cable if you use DSL.