Terra, Xemnas, and Xehanort... *Major Spoilers* - Page 2

Wolf Kanno · 11-05-2008, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Tavrobel ^

Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno ^

Not true, DiZ only removed Roxas' memories of his time as a member of Organization XIII. KHII states many times in his flashback that Roxas didn't have any memories of being Sora. He even got frustrated with Riku when he kept calling him by the name of Sora. Though it is interesting that Xemnas seemed to know who Roxas was the Nobody of.

I didn't say all of his memories. It is clear that even though he didn't know who his true nature was, it was enough to illicit a strong reaction from him; he had to have known something. Furthermore, if he didn't truly know anything at all, there would be no reason for him to join OXIII, and there would have been no inclination to. He can stay perfectly ignorant, but, that didn't happen, so he had to have known something and wanted to know more.

His frustration with Riku probably came as a result of the natural Nobody disposition to always be pissed, and for Riku challenging his identity. I would be pissed if someone said that who I was did not matter.

I've always gotten the impression that Roxas knew absolutely nothing of his former life and joined OXIII cause Xemnas probably promised him they would help him discover the truth about himself. I believe DiZ even mentions the fact that Roxas and Namine were unique Nobodies, not only because of their abilities but also because they are the only high level Nobodies who cannot remember their former lives.

Its obvious that Roxas was very important to the Order. I'm pretty sure that if Roxas knew about Sora completely, their was the strong possibility that he would ditch the Order cause somehow I doubt he would be able to gain a heart when it was still walking around fine as day. Thus OXIII's plans would not really help him. I'm certain that the majority of 358/2's plot will focus on him being tricked to join the OXIII, and the conspiracy by Xemnas to keep him in the dark.

Tavrobel · 11-05-2008, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno ^

I've always gotten the impression that Roxas knew absolutely nothing of his former life and joined OXIII cause Xemnas probably promised him they would help him discover the truth about himself. I believe DiZ even mentions the fact that Roxas and Namine were unique Nobodies, not only because of their abilities but also because they are the only high level Nobodies who cannot remember their former lives.

Its obvious that Roxas was very important to the Order. I'm pretty sure that if Roxas knew about Sora completely, their was the strong possibility that he would ditch the Order cause somehow I doubt he would be able to gain a heart when it was still walking around fine as day. Thus OXIII's plans would not really help him. I'm certain that the majority of 358/2's plot will focus on him being tricked to join the OXIII, and the conspiracy by Xemnas to keep him in the dark.

I can agree that there was some level of trickery or deception in getting Roxas to join. However, I don't think it was about the quest for his identity. After a certain time spent with the OXIII, it seemed as though Roxas had developed a passing ease with his own personality. Though Roxas is not like the others, it can be seen that does carry a good number of traits that are true for other, regular Nobodies.

I think that the OXIII were more concerned with them meeting at all. It wasn't an issue of keeping him in the dark, but rather, how to reveal the information to him in a way that benefited Xemnas the most. Meeting before the plans were laid would've ended badly; Roxas even already had plans to leave due to not knowing. Xemnas should have known this, and if he did, then it would stand that he would try to make sure his most recent acquisition did not leave in frustration, which actually, ultimately failed.