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#41  Impossible. Sora and Xehanort are the only two people who have ever managed to remain in control after transforming into a heartless instead of becoming a mindless creature craving hearts. This is confirmed in the game. Xehanort's name change to Xemnas was a result of changing his name before he cast aside his body and created a heartless and nobody. Xehanort assumed the name Ansem and began impersonating his master. This is made very clear and is very obvious. Xemnas is merely an anagram of Ansem plus an x. I'm not even going to touch the rest of your "theory." Edit: Just in case someone decides to nitpick, I'm going to clarify the first point. Sora and Xehanort are the only known examples of the whole heartless-with-a-conscious-mind thing, however you want to describe it. While it is possible that others have done the same thing, I find it highly improbable (so much so that I'm still willing to use the word impossible) that Axel's heartless would be a similar example. As nobodies remember their lives before their seperation from their heart, it's very likely that they all know a great deal about themselves. This would mean that the organization probably knows a lot about the circumstances under which each member was seperated from his or her heart. If Reno was Axel's heartless, the Organization would not have so carelessly overlooked a third example (as they were the ones who confirmed that only Sora and Xehanort have ever achieved it). |
06-17-2007, 10:28 PM
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06-21-2007, 11:38 AM
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| Former Site Staff  | If they are the only known examples, then by default, they are the ONLY examples. You can't just go around in stick in random settings into a plot that is not yours, such as "ohh, I shall go and Deus Ex Machina the ending to KHII. The explanation is that Riku and Sora blah blah blah, all is saved. BUT WAIT! THERE'S A FOURTEENTH MEMBER OF OXIII!? LOLOLOLOLOL WE ARE SCREWED!" It's not yours to deal with as you wish, and you simply have to wait until more is revealed to you. I very much doubt that KHIII (or the next section in the KH franchise) will focus on the Nobodies. As to your second point, wtf are you on about? Axel's inability to be grouped into the OXIII falls only on the Psychological aspect of his nature-less-ness. He still performs (some) functions of being part of the OXIII (double-Agenting to fight Marluxia, being sent to kill/capture Roxas, controlling Assassin Nobodies), and taking a new name does not seems as though it would be a problem for him. I'd break your theory apart line by line, but I'll spare you the theatrics. |
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06-21-2007, 01:30 PM
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| | However I can counter each and every one of your points by saying the same words over again: Its possible. Jeez it was only a thought so decided to present it. Now what the hell is this? What about what Square done with Ansem huh? He was the bad guy in the first game, but in the second game we are suddenly told that he isnt really Ansem and just stole his name. It's not like random new things aren't suddenly added anyway. Look I'm just trying to make a link while keeping in mind the facts we already have about the names of the organization members. To me, my theory is the most plausable. I think you should read my original post and take into account EVERY word I say. What are you talking about here? I don't know what this has to do with anything I said. |
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06-24-2007, 01:46 PM
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| Former Site Staff | Hasty Generalization. Anyways, it is possible, but it doesn't mean anything, and is not canon. As it is not your game, you have no say as to whether or not it will go one way or another. KHII didn't exist when KHI was finished. Therefore, the plot of the KH series does not continue until the game is finished, and released. There are no developments.
Now that you are familiar with the term, Axel's differences from the other Organization XIII members falls solely on his psychology. I had to add in the nature-less-ness part, simply because as a Nobody, he does not have a nature or identity. It's called the ability to discern and apply theorem. Perhaps you should look it up, and that is why Axel cannot be an exception to the rule of "OMG MAI HAERTLES CAN THINK!" |
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06-24-2007, 03:59 PM
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| | The Damned Truth Everyone! Ok, this question, as to whether Reno is Axel's somebody is INCORRECT . . . okay? Thank-you. Axel is like Reno because the makers of KH wanted a familiar character, but with a different role and personality. Axel's somebody is Lea (note: add X to that and mix the letters up you get Axel) who has passed away. Riku has nothing to do with Axel and Axel and Roxas are not gay! That is not the way of Disney. Now, I hope thats all cleared up now. Thanks. |
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