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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9 ^
They go to Sony, and Sony says, you can only release it if you change stuff.
I don't think I've ever heard of a case where a developer said Sony made them add content to a timed exclusive when porting it. I'd say it's more likely that they want to give PS3 owners something extra to compensate for the wait, but whatever.

On the other hand, it's very difficult to change a game developed exclusive for the PS3 for the 360.
I have to call BS on this I'm afraid. The major difficulty in porting from the PS3 to the 360 is in the programming. Code developed on the 360 generally ports better to the PS3 then the other way around, though I'd bet that as developers have become more familiar with the PS3 that's not as true today as it used to be.

Even still, having to recode things has nothing to do with adding extra content since that would be a simple matter of adding content (levels, character models, etc.), not drastically overhauling the underlying code. The only difficulty you might run into is similar to FFXIII where there is simply so little space on a DVD compared to a Blu-Ray that some quests or things may need to be locked out on some discs, but that would actually be less of a problem for an FPS or action game than something massive like an RPG and there are ways around it. In fact, if the team is developing for the PS3 with the knowledge that it will be ported to the 360 later, they'll likely anticipate those difficulties and work around them on the PS3 so it's easier to get on the 360 later.
Old 11-05-2009, 01:29 PM
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Bolivar's Guide to Online Gaming - Debunking Myths (lol jk)

TLDR: For those with attention deficiency disorders, here is a summarized snippet of the general ramblings for you to ponder over - - you can just look at headings to get the point

I. Stability - The PSN is faster, more stable, and more PS3 exclusives use dedicated servers

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also whilst he thought the ps3 online was ok he noticed an immediate improvement in terms of stability and the speed of the servers finding games on CoD 4 much faster than he could on ps3.
Okay, this is the biggest myth on the internet that needs to be dispelled - XBox Live is not faster or more stable than PSN. How many times was XBox Live unexpectedly down this year alone? I can only think of once that's happened with PSN (and its free). Furthermore, a MTV multiplayer study found that in fact the PSN is faster than XBox Live.

Even if it wasn't, it doesn't matter what system you play a game on. Nearly every multiplayer game on ps3/360 uses P2P, not servers. This mean your connection speed and stability depends on the host of the game, not what network you're using. The only game on 360 I can think of that doesn't are the Battlefield games, but those servers are owned and operated by EA, and they use the same ones on all platforms.

At the same time, plenty of PS3 exclusives use dedicated servers whereas I can't think of a single 360 game that does. Resistance 1 & 2, Killzone 2, Warhawk, SOCOM, and MAG all use dedicated servers, meaning your experience will always be fast and stable no matter how you're playing them.

II. Wireless - It works...

Originally Posted by Iceglow
Wireless isn't essential and it's probably advisable to if possible use an ethernet cable to directly go from router to 360/PS3/Wii (yes this is true of all consoles) this is because any interference would directly affect your online play and it's VERY easy to disrupt a wireless internet signal even across such a short distance as a living room.
This simply isn't true. I've been using Wireless for over a year now and there hasn't been a noticeable difference from playing with ethernet. I use a decent $50USD one that's usually simultaneously used by 2 laptops while a 3rd laptops downloads. Even before that, I used a crappy one provided by the landlord, shared with 5 rooms in our apartment as well as our own. Even then, there was no noticeable difference from playing wired.

III. The difference between XBL and PSN is now nominal; PS3 games have richer and more varied multiplayer experiences.
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as others I am sure will agree, the 360 is the FPS gamers bread and butter when it comes to console gaming these days.
Over the last 3 years, Sony has been slowly chipping away at the differences in services provided between the two, and the only features remaining are a universal Party System and Cross Game (Voice) Chat. But if you can hop into games with friends on the PSN just as easily, what's the significant advantage XBox Live has? The only game that's been a hassle for me is Battlefield 1943, and even then the game had problems with the 360 Party System if I'm not mistaken. Furthermore, many games provide their own party systems like Resistance, Call of Duty, Little Big Planet, MAG, and Uncharted 2. XBL has a little more convenience, no doubt, but not much.

Moreso, I disagree with Iceglow and DK because I have to question what kinds of game experiences you're having on XBL once you get into matches. It seems to me that 360 games just provide the same generic multiplayer modes that have been the norm for the last 15 years.

I would argue the PS3 has better online games. SOCOM and Warhawk are 32 player tactical shooters, the latter with a variety of vehicles on land, sea, and air. You can hop into a friend's game in Little Big Planet and build a level together. Killzone 2 is up to 32 players with dynamic matches with a deep class system boasting an impressive array of effects. Resistance 2 is up to 60 players on massive maps also with dynamic matches. Demon's Souls is arguably innovating the community experience of RPG's. And MAG, well, I think that goes without saying.

IV. Conclusion

I totally agree XBL is a solid service that gives you convenience for your money, but in no way is it faster or more stable. Wi-Fi is an awesome feature to have in your box. Lastly, the PSN is all but caught up with XBL, but even then, I would say the PS3 library gives you more to choose from and experience when it comes to online multiplayer.
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Moreso, I disagree with Iceglow and DK because I have to question what kinds of game experiences you're having on XBL once you get into matches.
fantastic ones thanks, I have had many hours of entertainment trolling people with Psy (usually Steve) on Halo 3, great times exploding aliens with chainsaws and fighting for my life in the corner of a map on GoW in Horde mode, one of the best gaming experiences in my life playing through the entire of SR2 with Psy tearing up a full on sandbox game world as, among others, B.A Baracus and Mad Murdoch, the Chuckle Brothers, Uncle Phil and Carlton etc, not to mention co-oping entire campaigns in other games such as ODST and GoW, having parachute wars on the excellent GTA IV episodic addons The Ballad of Gay Tony and The Lost and Damned among other things, gathering lots of innocent citizens around with our beautiful lute playing in Fable II only to spam god level lightning spells on them etc etc. And yes having universal party systems and the ability to have private chats open with just all of my friends in the same party vastly improves the multiplayer experience in its own right. I suppose you could say I have as much fun with my XBL gaming experiences as you do playing with yourself furiously trying to prove the PS3's superiority in every possible way over the 360 because you hate Bill Gates hair or some other inane reason. Which I am assuming is a lot because it is all you seem to do.
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I agree with Bolivar on the wireless subject when I play AOE3 with my mates we use wireless & it runs the same as using a cable!

But I have to say I agree with Iceglow that the 360 is the better console for FPS gamers. I mean Xbox Live was built around the COD series & Halo & the controller has triggers on it for crying out loud.

I can't really comment on online gaming it honestly doesn't really interest me. I prefer to play games by myself or socially with people who are actually in the same room.
Old 11-05-2009, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DK ^
I suppose you could say I have as much fun with my XBL gaming experiences as you do playing with yourself furiously trying to prove the PS3's superiority in every possible way over the 360 because you hate Bill Gates hair or some other inane reason. Which I am assuming is a lot because it is all you seem to do.
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OOC:On a one to ten scale, Bolivar, what would you rate Bill Gates' hair as?
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Originally Posted by Bolivar ^
Originally Posted by DK ^
I suppose you could say I have as much fun with my XBL gaming experiences as you do playing with yourself furiously trying to prove the PS3's superiority in every possible way over the 360 because you hate Bill Gates hair or some other inane reason. Which I am assuming is a lot because it is all you seem to do.
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Despite agreeing with most of what Bolivar has been saying DK's message made me laugh until I was near tears
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Originally Posted by Psychotic ^
OOC:On a one to ten scale, Bolivar, what would you rate Bill Gates' hair as?
lol apparently I think it's a -11
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