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#9  Explain how? In all seriousness, the two have the same multi-platform games which means stuff like COD4, racing games, and sports titles are all on both, all feature multiplayer, and are not going to be any different. The PS3 also has plenty of exclusives that not only offered some great multiplayer experiences like Resistance 2 (despite the fact that the single player sucked it's multiplayer was a lot of fun), Uncharted 2, and titles like Little Big Planet that offer an innovative multiplayer and online community experience. If what you're really trying to say is that Xbox Live is better than the PSN, then you'd be right, but only marginally so. Sony has done a lot to close the gap, and it doesn't cost an extra $50 a year to get all of the benefits of the PSN. Certainly not since people's tastes are obviously different, but I could easily make the argument that the PS3 has a greater variety of genres represented by it's exclusives. For what it's worth Yearg, I've always felt the same way you do now; the 360's exclusives have never been overwhelmingly impressive to me. Aside from Dead Rising and Gears 2 (since I can get the first one on the PC if I really want), there's been nothing that really stood out as being truly unique or exceptional. I find it odd that many people will still even claim that the 360 is far superior for exclusives when it's last really great one was Gears 2 (as far as I'm concerned anyway). Also, regarding Psychotic's earlier post listing exclusives, Ninja Gaiden 2 isn't exclusive anymore technically, even though I understand there were a lot of changes between it and the PS3 version. |
11-04-2009, 05:25 PM
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 | I'm just finding that this PS3 vs 360 and even console vs PC stuff is so much like religion. People just get in their camps, can't really defend the reason they are so stuck to their own beliefs and refuse to see the positives of any other stance. You're either with me or you're demonized. I really see no reason to say one is so much better than the other. Both are horribly flawed and both have great benefits. Sony is a douchey company for crap like the PSPGo... removing BC on PS3, having a ridiculously pricey launch for PS3 with almost no titles, etc. MS is a douchey company for trying to nickel and dime you with all of the peripherals and fees for online play. I just wonder why people start beating their drums with stuff like "ZOMG Uncharted 2 exclusive for PS3... because XBOX SUX!" and "At least we has Halo and Famitsu only gave Bayonetta a 38/40 for PS3 so your console suckz!!!" Luckily I don't see it here really at all, but why is this stuff even newsworthy and why does it have to be this way. Guess what? You can like BOTH consoles simultaneously for different reasons, and in the long run I'm sure I will. Even though PS3 currently has one exclusive (Demon's Souls) I care a lot about doesn't mean I think 360 is crap because it doesn't have that exclusive. Hell, I'd really like to pick up Fable II on the other side. Win-win. |
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11-04-2009, 06:33 PM
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| Cid's Knight  | This is pretty much truth. There's some good multi games on the PS3, but PSN just doesn't give you the kinds of social features that XBL does. I'm not really a big online gamer, so there's very few games on the 360 that appeal to me - Gears and Halo are cool and all, but I'm mostly interested in the campaigns, which aren't really that beefy. Basically what Dan said is exactly right, it's all about where your gaming interests lie. |
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11-04-2009, 06:57 PM
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 | I think you'll find the 360 has a lot to offer that the PS3 doesn't. For me, its the Forza franchise. I played Forza 2 extensively and have played a bit of Forza 3. All I've got to say is that Polyphony Digital has got to deliver big time with Gran Turismo 5. Other than that, Gears of War is good. Halo is actually one of the better FPS's franchises I've played and doesn't deserve the stick it gets from everyone on the internet. And XBLA is friggin awesome. I mean, they have Phantasy Star II on it for christs sake. What more do you want? Doom? They have that as well. With all that said, the PS3 is still the best system this gen. Mainly because Sony do one thing Microsoft don't. Make games. Microsoft could really do with some more first party studios as throwing money at third party developer isn't really working all too well. Not that they aren't getting some killer software, its just that it isn't coming in at a consistent rate, which is why 2009 has been pretty weak for the 360. PS3 owners on the other hand always have a killer exclusive to look forward to on the horizon. A result from always having first party developers making games for the system. What has really killed the 360 though is its fans. They are way too forgiving of Microsoft. If only they had complained about the XBL fee from the start instead of saying "You get what you pay for" then Microsoft would have dropped that fee a long time ago. Plus no one seems to even care anymore about the fact that the 360 has a 1-2 year lifespan. They would rather praise Microsoft for the low low prices they offer on the 360, which is probably why the 360 RROD's, because its a cheaply built piece of crap. Sony on the other hand responded to their fans. We asked for a cheaper console, they did that. We asked for more features on the PSN, they did that. We asked for friggin games, and they most certainly did that. I'd rather see Microsoft treat their fans as well as Sony treats theirs. Ok I'm done. The differences between the original and Sigma 2 are night and day. Sigma 2 looks better, has a huge amount of extra content and most importantly, runs a lot smoother. To sum up, they turned a good game great. Last edited by Dreddz; 11-04-2009 at 07:35 PM.. |
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11-04-2009, 07:23 PM
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 | I would disagree. There's simply nothing out there like Little Big Planet, Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles and soon 3D Dot Game Heroes. On top of that, I don't think any developers have put as much effort into their games as is visible in Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2, or Uncharted 2. That's 7 right there. I guess I pretty much feel like Yeargdribble. I loved both the Gears of War games, and I wanna play L4D and Mass Effect, but all of those games (except 2nd Gears of War) are infinitely better on the PC. The XBLA games really interested me but Castle Crashers and Braid are coming to PSN. It just seems like over time there are less and less reasons to own a 360, it makes me glad I didn't buy it in 05/06 when i was really contemplating it. |
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11-04-2009, 08:37 PM
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 | I don't think I said Xbox 360 sucks did I? It got a solid 400 + hours of my life that could've been used reading law books (& god knows I should of spent more time reading them my grade in my degree may of been higher). The controller & MGS4 were the reasons I bought the PS3, I owned a PSX & PS2 I'm accustomed to the controller I'm set in my ways. Most of the other games I buy appear on both machines (I have Arkham Asylum & Fifa 10 along with MGS4, Fallout 3 game of the year edition is next on the wishlist) so I reserve the right to be picky. When I aired my concerns about how the hardware on Microsoft's machine might effect MGR & FFXIII I meant it in a why couldn't they of just developed these games as PS3 exclusives as they were originally intended & port them later to the 360 with some additional contain to compensate 360 owners for the wait kind of manner. I realize this is a painful expensive way of doing things for developers but hell we're already paying over the odds for console gaming hardware & software to begin with so screw them! €40 - €60 for a new game & €299 for the console a bit steep. The 360 is a good console if you gave me one tomorrow I wouldn't smash it like some PS3 fanboy. I'm hearing about 360's selling for as low as €150. I might just buy one in the future to catch up on all the exclusives I'm gonna miss. Not getting to finish Gears Of War 2 & The Last Remnant has indeed annoyed me! I reckon I'll get Killzone 2 & Uncharted 1 & 2 to ease my pain  |
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11-04-2009, 10:02 PM
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 | Ok guys this is going to be a little long one but I'm going through peoples posts and see a few things worth commenting on. Yeargdribble, I seem to recall seeing in another post you have a Wii? Either way, regardless of if you do or not lets face it Nintendo are the ones who screw you over with the periphials. Microsoft got rid of the Pro and Core system models of 360 because frankly the elite wasn't selling with them around, neither was the arcade. I would have dropped the arcade myself and kept the pro around because the 360 definitely does need a hard drive unit on it. However, 360 controllers come in 2 varieties, wireless and wired. Wired ones run on the usb and will also work on the PC as a control pad for games there. Wireless controllers can be run on any rechargable AA batteries, there are options such as the play and charge kit, the quick charge kit ect but they are optional. I've had some AA rechargables for years since my GBA gaming days and thus I just use them, works fine for me. Nintendo requires a remote and a nunchuck for most games and now a motion plus unit for many of it's titles lets add that up: Wii Remote: £29.99, Wii Nunchuck: £19.99, Wii motion plus: £19.99 that is by my reckoning for one controller for one other person to play the games with you a £59.97 bill, maximum number of players in Wii games? 4, excluding the £29.99 for the remote in the console, thats basically: £209.89 exluding any extra periphials needed to play 4 player on Wii. That doesn't then include the accessories for a Wii remote such as steering wheels at £6.99 for unofficial 3rd party ones and £9.99 for the official. Then you got the nunchuck condom rubber grip £9.99 (I'll leave the Wii remote one out since motion plus comes moulded in to one of them already but if not they're £9.99 each too) The gun frame for shooter games £9.99 oh dear god the list just goes on most at £9.99 or more. The fee for online gaming is not too bad to be honest does it bother me? A little, but no more than the monthly £7.99 millions pay monthly for World of Warcraft and I get to play a damnsight more games online than they do. Hell the latest big MMORPG contender has a £15.99 fee monthly to play! XBL gold membership works out to be like £3.50 a month if you do the maths. Sony offer pretty much the same number of accessories as Microsoft just most of theirs are 3rd party. As for the XBL Avatar market place, lets not go there if you're stupid enough to pay for those things you deserve to be mugged for your money. Agreed. I happen to work with a guy who for years was a ps3 fanboy who hated and didn't pay any attention to the 360. He recently after much discussion with me and a few others at work decided that for his second console for his bedroom (his ps3 is in the lounge) that it would be a waste of time getting a second ps3 he may as well have the best of both worlds and get a 360. He now is a completely changed man he brought his 360 and went online same day. He was shocked by party mode and also by the fact that the 360 comes with a headset for online gaming chat straight out of the box whereas the ps3 you have to spend money buying a headset seperately and also whilst he thought the ps3 online was ok he noticed an immediate improvement in terms of stability and the speed of the servers finding games on CoD 4 much faster than he could on ps3. He also stated he found GTA IV much more comfortable to play on the 360 than the ps3. The division on PS3 and 360 is generally comming down to what you go in for. I could have brought either one but I enjoy Halo and I have always enjoyed going online and playing with friends for me the 360 was an immediately obvious choice. DK has hit the nail on the head there and since I work in a store selling consoles most of the time I have to admit when asked by customers what they are after from a console when they ask for the better of the two it is pretty much the exact same words I use to explain that on a technical scale on a HD tv through HDMI connection there is no difference graphically that the naked eye will particulary pick up on. There is very little to split the hairs on. |
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11-04-2009, 11:38 PM
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