Eyes on Final Fantasy Forums > General > General Gaming Discussion > Nerd vs. Critic

[Markus. D]

Originally Posted by Omecle ^

These guys are not cool, nor funny.

I agree with that in the case of AVGN, however... Guy with the glasses has made some epic sattire parodies and some pretty meaningful videos for me to keep interest.

[Forsaken Lover]

Just because I don't find them funny? You shouldn't assume anything. This is a forum, a place to post up ones own opinion, why do you need to make a statement like that? Because I'm not conforming my opinions to the majority of the board? Please, go get a life.

Yeah damn those conformists! I mean it's not like the majority are what make society, culture, laws, government, what really matters... Oh wait, yes it is.
I have a life and anyone who recognizes their place in the world also has a life. What you're doing is basically defying what governs the world and you're accomplishing nothing by doing it. So if everything you type is an act of total futility, you would appear to have no life.

But I'll be fair. I too had no life for about 4-5 years. In those years i hated Final Fantasy VII. It was popular and I didn't get why so i lashed out against it. However I had a realization a short while back. Me hating on the game does nothing. It's totally and utterly pointless.
So I made my peace. I think what I do and don't voice out how much I dislike FFVII because I realize I'm unimportant to the whole.

I agree with that in the case of AVGN, however... Guy with the glasses has made some epic sattire parodies and some pretty meaningful videos for me to keep interest.

You do realize Rolfe made what NC is doing popular, right? He's the founding father of pretty much every popular internet reviewer in this day such as Spoony, Armake and of course Critic.
He also retains the most popularity and recognition which further puts him above the rest.

Needless to say he's cool and funny on a whole other level.

[Markus. D]

Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover ^

I agree with that in the case of AVGN, however... Guy with the glasses has made some epic sattire parodies and some pretty meaningful videos for me to keep interest.

You do realize Rolfe made what NC is doing popular, right?

That may be the case, however I discovered "NC" as Guywiththeglasses, I just think that AVGN ragefaces a tad much... sure he reviewed some glitchy games, but some also had fine amounts of "smurfing hard!"-ness (At which point he just caves in and says "SMURFING SMURFLY SMURFABLICIOUS SMURF!").

and uhhh, perhaps Omecle jumped to a bit of an early conclusion but~ you guys should just get along. You're both reminding me of a nice version of Cbc Vs Myself.

[Ouch!]

Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover ^

Just because I don't find them funny? You shouldn't assume anything. This is a forum, a place to post up ones own opinion, why do you need to make a statement like that? Because I'm not conforming my opinions to the majority of the board? Please, go get a life.

Yeah damn those conformists! I mean it's not like the majority are what make society, culture, laws, government, what really matters... Oh wait, yes it is.
I have a life and anyone who recognizes their place in the world also has a life. What you're doing is basically defying what governs the world and you're accomplishing nothing by doing it. So if everything you type is an act of total futility, you would appear to have no life.

But I'll be fair. I too had no life for about 4-5 years. In those years i hated Final Fantasy VII. It was popular and I didn't get why so i lashed out against it. However I had a realization a short while back. Me hating on the game does nothing. It's totally and utterly pointless.
So I made my peace. I think what I do and don't voice out how much I dislike FFVII because I realize I'm unimportant to the whole.

I love how you pick out Omecle's use of the word conform and warp it to peg him as a nonconformist. Way to take things out of context.

For the record, I don't think AVGN or the Nostalgia Critic are very humorous either. I'm going to throw that out there because--guess what!--I can. That's what a discussion is for, right? Sharing opinions? Just because mine doesn't line up with yours doesn't mean you need to get butthurt over it, chief. Take a deep breath and relax.

[Omecle]

Way to totally twist my words, Forsaken Lover, as what you are discussing has absolutely nothing to do with this topic or what I am talking about. So basically, in a discussion forum, where we discuss our own opinions, I am not allowed to have an opinion on something because others find it good? Because it won't make a difference? What difference could I possibly be wanting in expressing my dislike for something? It isn't a matter of hating it for the sake of hating it, I don't like it because it is juvenile humour that I am not fond of. What is so wrong about that?

I don't hate things for their popularity, end of story. If you don't like my opinion there is no need to attack me, seriously.

[Big D]

Yahtzee would pwn both these guys with his sweet hat, but it still should be a pretty funny showdown. I've seen some of their material - wouldn't say I'm a fan, but they've both made me chuckle once or twice.

[Forsaken Lover]

Way to totally twist my words, Forsaken Lover, as what you are discussing has absolutely nothing to do with this topic or what I am talking about. So basically, in a discussion forum, where we discuss our own opinions, I am not allowed to have an opinion on something because others find it good?

Now who's twisting words?

I never said you couldn't think what you do. I just said it was wrong and why.

I can't stop you from thinking it or even typing it.

What difference could I possibly be wanting in expressing my dislike for something? It isn't a matter of hating it for the sake of hating it, I don't like it because it is juvenile humour that I am not fond of. What is so wrong about that?

Well now you've made an actual critique and those can be readily destroyed while a pure opinion is beyond my ability to disprove.

"Juvenile humour" you say? Well I can only guess you mean things that are only funny to adolescents. Well that's obviously not true as there are tons of fans of AVGN and of the ones I know, all of us are adults.
Yes James swears and Walker is spastic...neither of those characteristics are unique to "juvenile humour". Sure James does do jokes about fecal matter but again, that only really plays a part in a couple of his vids. Well it's actually there (well a prop resembling it is there) but other times he just says it a lot. Yet his act consists of more than that. It involve sa lot of props, special effects, acting and it all comes together.

But feel free to judge what is and what is not "juvenile humour."

I don't hate things for their popularity, end of story. If you don't like my opinion there is no need to attack me, seriously.

I have nothing against you personally. Your life is your life and none of my business. I also do not mean to attack or offend you on the personal-level. However you did attack something I like and when you say something someone disagrees with, you are open for a counter. I will not resort to namecalling like you dumb fag or whatever because that stuff is below me. All I'm trying to do is stick up for a person and artist I respect.
i'm sorry if I came off as harsh. I get a little riled up but I try to keep my attitude in check.

I love how you pick out Omecle's use of the word conform and warp it to peg him as a nonconformist. Way to take things out of context.

Well maybe I was unfair. Let's take a trip to Google to find out.
Type in "nonconformist definition" and...
define:nonconformist - Google Search

Gasp. What is this?
"not conforming to some norm or socially approved pattern of behavior or thought"

Well, see, that's what I thought it meant from the start. And what did he say originally?
"Because I'm not conforming my opinions to the majority of the board?"

So I warped what he said by...saying exactly what he said. I warped his words by calling him what he is.
You've got me now!

For the record, I don't think AVGN or the Nostalgia Critic are very humorous either. I'm going to throw that out there because--guess what!--I can. That's what a discussion is for, right? Sharing opinions? Just because mine doesn't line up with yours doesn't mean you need to get butthurt over it, chief. Take a deep breath and relax.

So...your defense is "everyone has an opinion you suck for attacking mine"? How...unoriginal.
And yes, this is what a discussion is for; you make an opinion or statement and have it challenged. Yet it seems you're not receptive to that particular aspect of a discussion. Your version of a "discussion" is we all say our pieces and live happily ever after. Sorry to burst your bubble but if you say an opinion, everyone and their mother has a right to challenge it.

Yahtzee would pwn both these guys with his sweet hat, but it still should be a pretty funny showdown. I've seen some of their material - wouldn't say I'm a fan, but they've both made me chuckle once or twice.

I haven't gotten into him yet. I've heard he's inspired by Spoony and that's all.

[Omecle]

I can't be bothered reading all of that, but what the hell is your point? All I said is that I don't find these guys funny. I don't even understand why you consider me wrong in thinking so or why you are even trying to debate about it? Are you just angry that I don't like something you do? Just because you know adults who like that humour doesn't mean I don't think it's still lame and childish.

I agree with Big D, Yahtzee is a lot better.

Edit: All right I'll guess I'll reply some.

Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover ^

I have nothing against you personally. Your life is your life and none of my business. I also do not mean to attack or offend you on the personal-level. However you did attack something I like and when you say something someone disagrees with, you are open for a counter. I will not resort to namecalling like you dumb fag or whatever because that stuff is below me. All I'm trying to do is stick up for a person and artist I respect.
i'm sorry if I came off as harsh. I get a little riled up but I try to keep my attitude in check.

I didn't attack something you like, I had an opinion about something you like. It's your problem if you want to get angry and start shooting me down like you have been. Life hint: Not everyone is going to like the same thing you do! You can try "sticking up" for them, but there's no need, I'm sure they can deal with people not liking their stuff.

Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover ^

So...your defense is "everyone has an opinion you suck for attacking mine"? How...unoriginal.
And yes, this is what a discussion is for; you make an opinion or statement and have it challenged. Yet it seems you're not receptive to that particular aspect of a discussion. Your version of a "discussion" is we all say our pieces and live happily ever after. Sorry to burst your bubble but if you say an opinion, everyone and their mother has a right to challenge it.

I'll stick up for Ouch. You do suck for attacking an opinion. Simple. Everyone is allowed their opinions and you you can tell people that you don't agree with them, but that's not really what you are doing. You are attacking people who don't like the same thing as you do -- this is why I told you to get a life, and why you completely contradict yourself with assuming that I am "hating" because it's "cool" or whatever.

Anyway, I'll say it again. Why the hell are you trying to argue about this? It's just some nerds on YouTube who are trying to be funny. Some people like it, some people don't. So why are you so intent on proving that our opinions suck? (Which they don't, if you actually bothered to have a reasonable discussion you'd know why we don't like it)