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[Aerith's Knight]

A fish could hardly be considered sentient.

[Kentarou]

Originally Posted by Pureghetto ^

Originally Posted by Kentarou ^

The difference between eating a plant and an animal, to me, is that one is sentient, and one is not.

I have an excellent example to show what I mean.

In my left hand I have a gerbil. In my right hand I have a potted plant.

If I set fire to the gerbil, what will be your reaction?

What if I set fire to the plant? What if I set fire to a tree? Rip a sapling off the ground? Cover a plant in darkness?

Why is it morally neutral to mistreat plants? Cognitive Dissonance? I think so.

The difference is that I can relate to the Gerbil's pain, and not the plant's. The Gerbil expresses things I can recognize, and cringe at the thought of. The Gerbil can produce desires, dislikes, and likes, while the Plant cannot make anymore meaning for itself, because it lacks sentience.

[rubah]

that's you, kenta. Personally I feel sick to my stomach when trees get uprooted or flowers keeled over by frost. and that's just in the natural world, let alone razing land for housing developments.

I think it has to do with a girl telling me when I was six that wood can feel pain. I saw immediately that it couldn't be true, but it did open up the truth that plants need to be respected.

[Aerith's Knight]

I guess ill say this now..

Some things are to be expected.. inevitable, one might say.

When you are living with millions of people on small pieces of land, it is impossible to keep nature the same way it is.

Animals are stored in small spaces so there is more meat to eat and cheaper, woods get cut to make place for houses..

The fact just is, that we are too overpopulated in most countries to be succesful vegetarians. Already woods are being cut by the football field to make place for coffeebean farms..

The thing about ranch meat is, is that the animals are kept in places where there is space. But with the way we just keep building and the population grows, those things will become more expensive and will eventually disappear.

I dont like it.. but thats just the way economics work.

[Quin]

I only eat vegetarian things.

Like cows.

[Roto13]

Originally Posted by Harle-Quin ^

I only eat vegetarian things.

Like cows.

hurr hurr hurr hurr

[I'm my own MILF]

Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight ^

I guess ill say this now..

Some things are to be expected.. inevitable, one might say.

When you are living with millions of people on small pieces of land, it is impossible to keep nature the same way it is.

Animals are stored in small spaces so there is more meat to eat and cheaper, woods get cut to make place for houses..

The fact just is, that we are too overpopulated in most countries to be succesful vegetarians. Already woods are being cut by the football field to make place for coffeebean farms..

The thing about ranch meat is, is that the animals are kept in places where there is space. But with the way we just keep building and the population grows, those things will become more expensive and will eventually disappear.

I dont like it.. but thats just the way economics work.

Completely false. The amount of land required to raise animals is far, fair higher than the amount of land required to grow crops for Humans. Crop farming is far more space-efficient than husbandry.

[Aerith's Knight]

Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF ^

Completely false. The amount of land required to raise animals is far, fair higher than the amount of land required to grow crops for Humans. Crop farming is far more space-efficient than husbandry.

I just meant that the healthier the food, the more expensive its going to get..

America still has lots of space, but in the netherlands the farmers have trouble staying afloat, because of the lack of space(expensive machines, little crop in comparison) the price of the crop is high compared to whatever is exported from america(since they have lots of space) and the goverment has to buy up stuff..

Pig farmers dont seem to have the same problem though.