Eyes on Final Fantasy Forums > Final Fantasy: The Smell of Fear > Final Fantasy XIII > Turns out the 360 really did compromise the PS3 version

[Croyles]

Originally Posted by Loony BoB ^

If they didn't release them on the PS3 at all then they either...
1. Were paid to do it exclusive
2. Didn't think the time/money spent developing a PS3 port would be worthwhile.
3. Didn't have the resources available to them.
4. Didn't think it would make a profit on that system.
5. Didn't want to commit to too many projects at once.
6. Didn't have the time available to the developers to port to multiple consoles.

Or some other business reason. There are always business reasons. Always.

But BoB, your making an argument over 6 different possibilities. There are probably over a hundred different possibilities why they didnt bring them out on the PS3. Fact is that they didnt bring it out (even though they said they would with TLR).

Dude, why are you defending a company by 'guessing' the reasons for their business decisions?

Fact is, SE lied. Many times. First of all they said it would definitely be an exclusive game. Then it went multiplatform, but said that the 360 version will only be worked on after the PS3 version was done so as not to risk the PS3 version getting gimped, which also turned out to be a lie as when the PS3 version was 90% done the 360 was 70% done. Im not complaining cause it means we are getting the game quicker but fact is that they lied.

Usually these sorts of lies annoy people, but obviously we shouldnt be annoyed because its only the PS3 thats getting shafted and hey, as long as you get the game you dont care right? Nice.

I'll say it again, im happy 360 owners are getting to play the game, i am however annoyed (am now anyway, didnt care before) at all the lies SE has spurted out and people telling us to stop moaning about it. Obviously you dont see anything wrong with this cause it means you dont have to spend $299 to buy a PS3

Oh my god I cant believe I just made such a long post over a bloody multiplatform discussion im feeling too nerdy I need to go do something manly

[seiferalmasy2]

If they are placing the game on DVD then that is just ridiculous. The Enix merger has been a disaster for this series.

Cash in prequel and sequels all over the place (x-2 springs to mind immediately and FFVII spin offs) and now we have this....money before fans. It hasn't always been so 1 sided

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Speaking at GamesCom, Square Enix's Yoshinori Kitase commented: "This isn't the final count yet, but we're aiming for about three discs."

In other words it will be 4 or 5.

The team is working to compress as much as possible, while still keeping the quality high.

Limitations are in place for how much you can compress and there is a massive downside with the fact it takes more processor power ad time to uncompress it at realtime game play. The fact it is going on DVD will massively affect quality from what it would have been.

I am disgusted.

[Croyles]

Originally Posted by seiferalmasy2 ^

Speaking at GamesCom, Square Enix's Yoshinori Kitase commented: "This isn't the final count yet, but we're aiming for about three discs."

In other words it will be 4 or 5.

Yes, they said it will probably be 4 discs now. Not that that is new for PS1 FF fans, but im wondering if its a step back since FFX and XII

[sdm42393]

I could care less that it's multiplatform. I do care that the PS3 version is getting gimped for the sake of "equality."

[seiferalmasy2]

Originally Posted by Croyles ^

but im wondering if its a step back since FFX and XII

It is in terms of pushing a console to the limit. I didn't buy a ps3 to be downgraded to Xbox 360

[Bolivar]

Originally Posted by Loony BoB ^

You're right, Square-Enix should totally have predicted the future.

Of course, that's what financial/marketing analysts get paid for

EDIT: And with all of that argument, you still can't deny that S-E will make much more money by selling on both platforms. If you want to compare the meerkat market, they'll be looking to sell in three major areas firstly and everywhere else as an afterthought. Japan (360 dominant), America (going by Amazon sales of the Beatles multiplatform release, it's Wii/360 dominant) and Europe (360 dominant last I checked). The only people I know personally over here that have a PS3 regret getting a PS3. That probably won't stop me buying one though... if I ever get the money. =/

"Much more" is debatable. I'm not sure how much interest the Halo/Madden crowd has in games like Final Fantasy XIII. In any case, that's irrelevant.

What's at issue here is what bringing FFXIII multiplatform has done. I'm sure everyone here, myself included, thinks that as many people having the ability to play the game is a good thing. The problem is, where does that begin to be offset by compromises made in the development process? FFXIII has already been compromised in graphics, game design, and content (voice-overs) by bringing it to the XBox 360. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

[Croyles]

Originally Posted by Bolivar ^

Originally Posted by Loony BoB ^

You're right, Square-Enix should totally have predicted the future.

Of course, that's what financial/marketing analysts get paid for

EDIT: And with all of that argument, you still can't deny that S-E will make much more money by selling on both platforms. If you want to compare the meerkat market, they'll be looking to sell in three major areas firstly and everywhere else as an afterthought. Japan (360 dominant), America (going by Amazon sales of the Beatles multiplatform release, it's Wii/360 dominant) and Europe (360 dominant last I checked). The only people I know personally over here that have a PS3 regret getting a PS3. That probably won't stop me buying one though... if I ever get the money. =/

"Much more" is debatable. I'm not sure how much interest the Halo/Madden crowd has in games like Final Fantasy XIII. In any case, that's irrelevant.

What's at issue here is what bringing FFXIII multiplatform has done. I'm sure everyone here, myself included, thinks that as many people having the ability to play the game is a good thing. The problem is, where does that begin to be offset by compromises made in the development process? FFXIII has already been compromised in graphics, game design, and content (voice-overs) by bringing it to the XBox 360. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

The problem is, if the game ends up sucking, so many people are going to blame it on the move to multiplatform, when we really have no idea if thats what made it bad. Maybe it is, maybe isn't.

Im pretty sure its gonna be a good game though.

[Loony BoB]

Graphics? Marginal, if at all. From what I've seen it looks incredible regardless.
Game design? We don't know to what extent that might be, and as shown in games such as FFVII, an enjoyable game shouldn't need to be on a single disc. I can't think of many things that were shut out on the later discs, actually.
Content (voice overs)? Eh, that's not a big deal.