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So it's ok for one plotter to kill another plotter? Man, that would simplify politics so much. Just hand each one a sword and give the world to whomever came out on top.

Just because Vayne slaughtered bad guys as well as good guys and innocents, that does not make him a noble character. It just makes him an equal-opportunity psychopath.
Old 07-05-2009, 05:02 AM
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I don't necessarily feel he's a psychopath. Though I agree he isn't exactly a hero but he has noble ambitions and whose to say he would be a bad ruler? Several rulers in our own history murdered their way to the top and followed it up with the complete execution of their political enemies and they are regarded as great men and woman who changed their nations for the better. Whose to say Vayne wouldn't be the same, I don't remember him talking about turning Dalmasca or Nalbina into the FF version of the Congo.
Old 07-05-2009, 08:55 AM
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As another poster said, it almost feels as if Vayne was trying to protect Larsa from becoming the ruler with an iron fist that Vayne felt he had to be. Larsa openly defied him and the worst Vayne did in return was talk down to him rather than icing him as he did his two other brothers. The fact that he did that on top of killing his father does not make him evil IMO, since this has been done in real life for thousands of years for a myriad of reasons and has oftentimes helped the masses at large.

I will say that what he did to the refugees was definitely a "villain" move, but he really did want to save his people. He almost kinda felt like Bush with the "either you're with us or against us" attitude, so to me he came off more of a pompous egomaniac than some sort of evil mastermind.

As for what he did with Judge Drace, he was merely trying to test Gabranth's loyalty, another common happening in our history.
Old 07-08-2009, 07:52 PM
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He's not evil! He's just a little confused. Poor thing. D:
Old 07-10-2009, 08:21 AM
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It didnt take me too long in combat against him to realize that he wasn't my friend.
Old 08-15-2009, 08:32 AM
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What makes a person bad or evil. What makes bad or evil is in the eye of the beholder.

Also, can you really say even Adolf Hitler or any other person is "evil"? Yes, i do acknowledge that he killed numerous counts of innocent people. And i know he experimented on others too. But can you really say he is evil?
I know he did horrible things. Yeah, he should not have blamed others for his country's failings, and he should not have tried to conquer half the world, and he should not have killed all those people. But, can you really say he is evil?

He only tried restore his country's honor and power.(At first, or so i believe.) He tried to help his country at first(i believe), but instead,he took everything to a radical extreme, once he saw he could gain massive power and control. Like people say, power corrupts. And along with that, money is the root of all evil, as this whole war may not have happened if Germany was not in such debt.

That's my opinion anyway. That's why i won't say Vayne is evil or not.
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