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Originally Posted by Dr. Acula ^
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And what do you mean about the scene at the top of the Pharos, what i remember about that scene is that Ashe and Vaan are trying to attack those stones,
Whilst Balthier and Fran share the most emotional scene (between main characters anyway) in the game. the emotion stemming from Fran's tenderness and devotion even tho shes a veira who are usually cold and Balthier's refusal to leave her behind???
I can't see how that suggests balthier and Ashe??
Apparently in the Japanese version of that scene Fran comments on Balthier having another woman or something.

ohh i thought that it was at the end in the japanese one where she teases him by saying "whats it like to be a hansome man?" or something and he goes " shut up" as if its no big deal.
never heard anything bout the pharos tho
Old 09-25-2008, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Big D ^
According to Wikipedia, the FFXII Ultimania says that male and female Viera live in separate villages, and maintain pretty strict isolation from one another except when they have to make contact. No idea of the rationale for this, but I guess it could have something to do with avoiding over-population ('cause of their long lifespans) or a self-destructive reaction to their culture and species dwindling away.
In the game, we only ever see female Viera around the place, so presumably the males are even more cloistered.
Ah yes, the Ultimanias. "Oh no, we didn't actually explain anything in the game, so it doesn't make any real sense!" If it was meant to be in the game, it'd be in the game. This ultimania crap is insulting, that we should have to rely on external sources to find out more about the world of the games we play. It just royally pisses me off.
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Originally Posted by Spatvark ^
Originally Posted by Big D ^
According to Wikipedia, the FFXII Ultimania says that male and female Viera live in separate villages, and maintain pretty strict isolation from one another except when they have to make contact. No idea of the rationale for this, but I guess it could have something to do with avoiding over-population ('cause of their long lifespans) or a self-destructive reaction to their culture and species dwindling away.
In the game, we only ever see female Viera around the place, so presumably the males are even more cloistered.
Ah yes, the Ultimanias. "Oh no, we didn't actually explain anything in the game, so it doesn't make any real sense!" If it was meant to be in the game, it'd be in the game. This ultimania crap is insulting, that we should have to rely on external sources to find out more about the world of the games we play. It just royally pisses me off.
I wonder what the possibility is that they do that mostly to get fans to buy the Ultimania just to get the extra story bits that they left out. Infact that could be another question, I wonder if they purposely leave things out just to put it in the Ultimania.
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Originally Posted by Spatvark ^
If it was meant to be in the game, it'd be in the game.
Like it or not, they're canon.
Old 09-26-2008, 02:42 AM
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I just figures it was a "female dwarf" situation.
Old 09-26-2008, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Spatvark ^

Ah yes, the Ultimanias. "Oh no, we didn't actually explain anything in the game, so it doesn't make any real sense!" If it was meant to be in the game, it'd be in the game. This ultimania crap is insulting, that we should have to rely on external sources to find out more about the world of the games we play. It just royally pisses me off.
Lord this bothers me as well. XII was pretty bad but not as lousy as CC, as far as I know the Ultimania is the only place you can learn the motive of one of the major characters whose role is pretty pivotal and lack of explanation makes the plot somewhat confusing. AC had a similar problem...

I've heard FFX has some important backstory elements that are only available from the Ultimania. I didn't mind with Xenogears cause it was obvious the game was half finished but some of the recent FF ones are ridiculous since they detail important story elements that should have been in the game.
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