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What I've learned in this thread is that if Miriel comes to Midgardsormr, it's not to play with Ouch.
Old 09-03-2009, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ouch! ^
I wouldn't be able to bring myself to level SMN unless I'd already completed the prime battles to have access to all the avatars from level one.
See, I feel that cheapens the experience, so much. I feel like Summoner is one of those rare jobs in the game where actually becoming a Summoner is a real journey and a challenge. And it's FUN. Doing the prime battles under a different job just isn't the same. It's kind of like cheating.

It takes ages to get your Summoner ruby, even more time to complete the quest to get the job, and then you have the amazing one-on-one battles with each of the avatars where you either make them your bitch and they bow down to you, or else you die trying. xD It's really a great experience, and the last component of a lengthy quest. Being a lvl 75/someotherjob and just knocking out the primes real quick isn't the same. What a boring way to do things. Talk about taking the fun out of it. =/

20 levels is nothing. Especially these days, you can bang that out real quick. Why cheat yourself of a great experience just so you can claim to be all uber prepared summoner from lvl 1?

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Old 09-03-2009, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Miriel ^
Originally Posted by Ouch! ^
I wouldn't be able to bring myself to level SMN unless I'd already completed the prime battles to have access to all the avatars from level one.
See, I feel that cheapens the experience, so much. I feel like Summoner is one of those rare jobs in the game where actually becoming a Summoner is a real journey and a challenge. And it's FUN. Doing the prime battles under a different job just isn't the same. It's kind of like cheating.

It takes ages to get your Summoner ruby, even more time to complete the quest to get the job, and then you have the amazing one-on-one battles with each of the avatars where you either make them your bitch and they bow down to you, or else you die trying. xD It's really a great experience, and the last component of a lengthy quest. Being a lvl 75/someotherjob and just knocking out the primes real quick isn't the same. What a boring way to do things. Talk about taking the fun out of it. =/

20 levels is nothing. Especially these days, you can bang that out real quick. Why cheat yourself of a great experience just so you can claim to be all uber prepared summoner from lvl 1?
I'm more concerned with the lack of Fenrir and Diabolos. If you want to do those battles on your own, you're going to be missing them far beyond level 20.

I would also offer that soloing prime battles is it's own kind of fun, but not many jobs can manage that anyway.
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Eh, the avatars aren't really worth having until later anyway. But I don't really see what's wrong with having them all by level 1 - I did and it didn't stop me from enjoying the job (when I'm not trying to main heal). To say it just "cheapens" the experience is not a view that should be enforced on others as people enjoy playing a job class for different reasons.

Also, doing the prime battles on a different job is fun if you go in solo'ing or duo'ing.
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So guys we were talking about tanks, right?

From what I hear, BLU is another job that can tank well. I've only tried it once (loldunes), but it acts kind of like a PLD with Cocoon and Auto-Regen/Refresh, as well as whatever else you want to tack onto it.

PLD/XXX is the best tank. X is usually equal to WAR, but can be different depending on what you're up to. A lot of endgame stuff will require /NIN.

NIN is pretty horrible during lower levels (I'm doing that now) and really doesn't get the right sort of tools to hold hate effectively ever. I hear good things about /DRK but I've never seen it.

MNK's role as tank is usually limited to "first voke" (/WAR only!) in pre-colibri parties that have a THF.

SAM becomes an option at 35 with Seigan. It works a lot like a low-level NIN tank that can counter and generally isn't useless hate or damage-wise.

WAR can tank for the same reason it's the main subjob choice of most tanks.

But yeah PLD and NIN are considered the central tanks of the game for a reason. Pick one (PLD) and go with it.
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PLD up to L14 at the moment =]
Old 09-06-2009, 01:32 PM
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Paladin is great fun to level up, imo.
Old 09-06-2009, 11:25 PM
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I agree; it easily became my favorite as soon as I started partying with it.
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