Confused about the Sending, the Unsent, and the Sent. *ENDING SPOILERS*

The Chocobo Warrior · 11-20-2004, 09:56 PM

Okay, In the near beginning of the game, Yuna does the Sending for all the people that died in the hands of Sin in Kilika. Lulu explains to Tidus that if the dead ones were not sent, then they became feins.

Later on, we learn that Auron was actually an Unsent, but, we don't see him as a fiend or trying to kill anyone. It gets even more confusing with Syemour. We kill him once, he dies, Yuna tries to send him, but fails, so Syemour is revived....HOW!? And WHY is he not a fiend?! (I picture Fiens as the monsters you fight in random battles)

Okay, then it gets even MORE confusing with Tidus himself! Since it is proven that a person that is not send comes back to life again (Seymour is proof. We kill him THREE FREAKING TIMES!!!!), so......Why couldn't Yuna just go: "Screw the sending of Tidus! I want Tidus back!" and there you go! Tidus comes back right then and there! (Since not doing the Sending on Seymour brought him back to life)

Oooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.......I do not get it.

Lulu says something about if people did not accept death, then they became feins, but if they DID, then they did not become fiends...But, Tidus's mom accepted death, she went to the Fareplane and no sending for her.
How did Seymour come back to life? I thought that if he did NOT accept death, then he'd become a monster like the ones from the Random Battles stuff.
As with the case of Auron, how come he's not a fiend? Did he accept death? If so, then why is he still there? Why did he not go to the Farplane the moment he died like Tidus's mother did?

Aaaaah! I just confused myself even MORE!

Help clearing this up, please!

Mr. Burns · 11-20-2004, 10:24 PM

People that do not accept death become fiends if they are unsent, and this would have happened to the people of Kilika.
Those who do accept death do not become fiends, and travel to the Farplane of their own accord, as far as I know.
However, if something very strong bonds them to the living world then they will not travel to the Farplane. Examples of these people are Auron, Seymour, and Lord Jyscal. Although they accepted death (maybe not Lord Jyscal) they could not travel to the Farplane untill their mission in the living world has been completed. In Auron's case this was protecting Tidus and Yuna on the Pilgrimage, so he allowed himself to be sent when Siun had been defeated.
Seymour's mission was to 'liberate' Spira of it's suffering, but when he realised his task was impossible he gave in and allowed himself to be sent.
As far as I know, Tidus wasn't dead, as technically he wasn't alive to begin with, he was only a dream of the Fayth. For this reason he was able to go into the Farplane without any worries of disappearing, and for the same reason Yuna had no control over Tidus' departure.

The Chocobo Warrior · 11-21-2004, 10:34 AM

Okay, i get it.

The peeps of Kilika would have turned into monsters if they were not sent. They did not accept death AT ALL!

People like Tidus's mother must have accepted death and did not have a strong bond in the world, so that is why she went to the Fareplan, because if she still had a strong bond to the living world, she would be like Auron, an unsent.

Auron and Seymour....Okay, i get it now, they are unsents because they still have strong bonds in the world. Seymour relized his plans for Spira's "liberation" sucked so he just accepted it and boom, he went away for good.

Tidus was a dream of the fayth in a way, he was neither alive nor dead...

Okay, one more question, If people like Auron are Unsents, because they still have strong bonds to the living world, then why didn't Tidus's mother stay on the earth to care for her son? I mean, in Tidus's flashbacks, the mother seemed to care for him a lot while Jecht was waltzing around town acting like an idiot in a way.
So...Did Tidus's mom quit loving him when she died or something? Because you would think she'd still have a strong bond to the guy.

Mr. Burns · 11-21-2004, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Chocobo Warrior

So...Did Tidus's mom quit loving him when she died or something? Because you would think she'd still have a strong bond to the guy.

Tidus' mother went to the Farplane because she accepted death, and Auron tells you in one of Tidus' flashbacks the story about the lovebirds, where if one dies the other will die too because they cannot bear to go on living without them. So when Jecht went to Spira and was presumed dead, Tidus' mother decided to go join him (not in Spira, but on the Farplane, as this is where she thought he had gone). She didn't really have a reason to stay with Tidus as before she departed she entrusted Auron with his safety.

skatehippie · 11-21-2004, 08:49 PM

As far as I know, Tidus wasn't dead, as technically he wasn't alive to begin with, he was only a dream of the Fayth. For this reason he was able to go into the Farplane without any worries of disappearing, and for the same reason Yuna had no control over Tidus' departure.

You mean, wasn't alive during the game's events? Because I thought he WAS alive 1,000 years ago...and that the dreams were based off of the actual population of Zanarkand.

That's probably what you meant but I just wanted some confirmation that Tidus did indeed exist in the original Zanarkand, right?

SeeDRankLou · 11-22-2004, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by skatehippie

You mean, wasn't alive during the game's events? Because I thought he WAS alive 1,000 years ago...and that the dreams were based off of the actual population of Zanarkand.

That's probably what you meant but I just wanted some confirmation that Tidus did indeed exist in the original Zanarkand, right?

There is nothing in the game that either confirms or denies that Tidus was actually alive 1000 years ago. I believe that probably the original population of the dream Zanarkand was based on the actual population of Zanarkand, but 1000 years has past since the dream first started. People of the dream world lived, grew up, had children, died, just like in the real world. So I would imagine that Tidus is just a creation of the dream world and was never really alive in the first place.

ShivaBlizzard8 · 11-22-2004, 08:45 PM

The peeps of Kilika would have turned into monsters if they were not sent. They did not accept death AT ALL!

Well, the way I understood it, their "not accepting" death wasn't so much of a conscious choice as it was a result of the violent and horrific manner in which they died. I think that people who die in this manner, as a result of tragedy (before their natural time, so to speak) are the ones which need to be sent. With Sin killing people left and right, it would then make sense why so many fiends existed.

Big D · 11-23-2004, 02:11 AM

The people of Kilika were killed by Sin; that's a violent, unclean and fearful death. Not something they could accept, so they were bound to this world until the Sending was performed. The Sending isn't needed for people who accept their death before it comes, or who die without something strong binding them to the world of the living. Unsent people, like Mika, Auron and Seymour, each have a strong sense of purpose that prevents them simply fading away to the Farplane or becoming Fiends. Mika's sense of duty to Yevon and to Spira; Auron's promises to Braska and Jecht, and Seymour's desire to 'liberate' the world with the endless release of death. Once Sin was defeated, Auron needed to be Sent; his promises were fulfilled, so it was time for him to leave. When Mika learned of Yunalesca's defeat, he lost his sense of purpose and dissipated.

Tidus is different. When he vanished at the very end, and went to the Farplane, that wasn't because of the Sending. It was because Yu Yevon - the driving force behind the dream of Zanarkand - was dead. Expecting him to stay in Spira would be like expecting a light bulb to keep glowing after flipping off the switch.