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[Tavrobel]

Originally Posted by Skyblade ^

Assuming Aeons can survive when their summoner is gone, why does Dream Zanarkand vanish when its summoner is destroyed?

As a side note, why didn't the team simply destroy Jecht's fayth when in Zanarkand, instantly destroying Sin and making Yu-Yevon vulnerable?

Probably due to the special relationship that is afforded to DZ by Yu Yevon. Though DZ is an Aeon, it's got the most exceptions to it. Regular Aeons have multiple incarnations, that is, to each Summoner, the Aeon is slightly different. Ifrit can't be called to two different Summoners (eg, Belgemine), and neither can Bahamut or any of the others. If Yu Yevon can't summon, then who else is there to do it? Even Anime gets Yuna after Seymour dies/relinquishes it.

It's probably protected by something they can't personally destroy, or they can't find it. Zanarkand in ruins seemed to defy certain laws of physics. It is possible that the fayth stones are catalysts, but once the creature has been summoned, it stays in existence until un-summoned? Either way, it's much easier to deal with something that has a similar base (treating Sin as a fiend), rather than deal with an entirely new system (fayth stones are ???).

The Aeon or Fiend assertion is interesting. Though it is because of the definition you've given us that separates the two classifications, it makes me wonder more about how pyreflies work. FFX-2 didn't help in this regard whatsoever. You will eventually have to take into account unsents, who are also fiends-in-training. Auron never seemed to succumb to hate at all, but he's no projection. As Big D has thrown out, most Aeons are former summoners, which I suppose gives credence to "it takes one to know one." Before you say Anima (yes, I thought about this, too while typing this spiel out), she's originally a Final Aeon. Different rules. I had read once before a theory that regular Aeons are just unused Final Aeons, which seemed to work, and accounts for the power loss, but had no true evidence to support it besides Anima.

EDIT: Wow, I need to connect my logic more fluidly. I think I'm skipping steps, here and there.

[Roogle]

The Aeons that have existed for hundreds of years are, indeed, summoners from the remnants of Zanarkand —

I think that it was established in the game that the Final Aeon is a special exception to the rule, yet, at the same time, is no different from an ordinary Fayth because Anima can be summoned by Yuna, Seymour, and the Guado summoners without any special connection to the Fayth itself.

[Namelessfengir]

Originally Posted by Roogle ^

Anima can be summoned by the Guado summoners

when did that happen?

a have an opinion but i cant really figure out how i want to express it right now

[Big D]

Originally Posted by Roogle ^

I think that it was established in the game that the Final Aeon is a special exception to the rule

Indeed. Isn't Lady Yunalesca responsible for turning Guardians into the Final Aeon? Her defeat seems to be the act that makes the Final Aeon stop being an option for Yuna's party.

[Roogle]

Originally Posted by Namelessfengir ^

Originally Posted by Roogle ^

Anima can be summoned by the Guado summoners

when did that happen?

I thought that the Dark Aeons were summoned by Guado Summoners to stop your party at various points of the game. This sidequest is not available in the North American version of the game. Can someone confirm this for us?

Originally Posted by Big D ^

Indeed. Isn't Lady Yunalesca responsible for turning Guardians into the Final Aeon? Her defeat seems to be the act that makes the Final Aeon stop being an option for Yuna's party.

Yes. Yunalesca was the only one in Spira to know how to create a Final Aeon, so her defeat effectively ends the cycle of death and tradition that had persisted in Spira for ages.

[Tavrobel]

Originally Posted by Roogle ^

I thought that the Dark Aeons were summoned by Guado Summoners to stop your party at various points of the game. This sidequest is not available in the North American version of the game. Can someone confirm this for us?

It's not in NTSC/NTSC-J, but I don't believe that the Dark Aeons are supposed to be considered canonical pieces in the mythological workings of Spira, at least, not until FFX-2. If they were, then one might plausibly treat them as summoner-specific versions of an Aeon employed by the religious groups. I looked up the Dark Yojimbo one, but it doesn't appear that the summoner is Guado, he just seems to be a regular summoner-esque person.