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syun_ukiya
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i've been thinking.. do i really need break hp limit? i mean dark aeons always give you 99999 damage..

which is better

[auto-haste]
[auto-phoenix]
[auto-protect]
[break hp limit]

or

[auto-haste]
[auto-phoenix]
[auto-protect]
[ribbon]
Old 07-18-2005, 03:44 AM
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Auto protect isn't really needed, get ribbon instead, Break hp limit IS needed, without that you basically die, faster then you would with 30,000ish HP, even though that still can consider a one-hit-KO, but still the extra HP is always good.

But like you said, They always do 99,999, so maybe its not really needed, however, I'd rather have 20,000++ hp then protect automatically casted on me, when I can just do that myself in one turn.
Old 07-18-2005, 06:15 AM
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i've read this in neoseeker.. don't you think it makes sense?

Break HP Limit = Unnecessary (includes best armor combo)
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BHPL is often a favorite ability for many FFX players and it's somewhat a pleasure to exceed this amount than the traditional maximum of 9,999 in the FF series. However...you will easily find that it's an ineffectual ability. It is also a waste of time when obtaining Wings to Discovery...9,999 is all the HP you need.

There is no attack in FFX that can deal over 9,999 to ALL your party members that cannot be predicted or defended against. If so, an easy Auto-life can solve this.

BHPL also have shifty effects on your Celestial Weapons. Weapons like the Caladbolg and World Champion exhibit their full potential when your health is full, and maintaining 99,999hp through those tough Arena battles is tedious and wastes precious turns.

There is no item that can restore over 9,999hp...so it's best to keep your HP capped at that amount to save space on your armor and on your sphere grid.

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This armor combination works more wonders than BHPL:

[Auto-Phoenix]
[Auto-Haste]
[Auto-Protect]
[Auto-Potion] (sell all Potions and Hi-Potions)

OPTIONAL

[Defense +20%] (against Dark Aeons and Penance)
[Auto-Shell] (against Nemesis)


With this mechanic, any fallen character will immediately revived; and when a character takes damage, it will be reduced by the auto-protect/shell effects; and when a character gets into the SOS status, he or she will automatically use an X-Potion to fully restore health.

That is the armor to have, and the effects like Haste, Protect, and Shell...they save time and cannot be dispelled, even after a KO. It saves the time to cast Hastega and Protect/Shell on the entire party too (if you notice, when casted, Hastega will cut back a few of your turns on the CTB. Auto-Haste solves this problem, and it will save your arse in many fights, including the Dark Aeons).

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So basically...forget BHPL and use the above armor abilities for easy battles, unless you like big numbers.



BTW...against Nemesis, his Armageddon will shoot for 99,999 against everyone, so BHPL won't help you there. This also applies to other attacks like Dark Anima's Pain or Dark Bahamut's Impulse.
Old 07-18-2005, 10:55 AM
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Even with auto-protect and defence at 255, penance still does 12000 damage to my party with obliteration, and there is no way to predict that...

how can you make him do less than 9999 damage??? maybe ill just stick to using break HP Limit.
Old 07-19-2005, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Blitz Ace
Even with auto-protect and defence at 255, penance still does 12000 damage to my party with obliteration, and there is no way to predict that...

how can you make him do less than 9999 damage??? maybe ill just stick to using break HP Limit.
Use Cheer x5. And no, you do not need BHPL for ANY boss in the game, Dark Aeons and Penance included. It can actually be a liability in some battles.
Old 07-19-2005, 09:38 AM
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so i am right then? i should replace bhpl to some other abilities..

i'm also thinking about giving it only to yuna since if he stays alive she can heal the rest of the party..
Old 07-20-2005, 11:17 AM
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Why! I've been resetting and fighting dark aeons and they won't drop an armor with ribbon for one of my 3 best characters (tidus, yuna, wakka)! so i've been thinking.. can stoneproof be an alternative for ribbon? i know i'd be getting one by capturing monsters.. but what about the other two.. I think I should only be afraid of petrification, right? The instant death can be countered by auto-phoenix. And so does sleep proof..
Old 07-25-2005, 07:05 AM
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Does anyone have a picture of what penance looks like?
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