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[Aerith's Knight]

nice sig wiffles.. and i agree

[Whiffles]

Tee hee thanks it's Koda Kumi

And yeah getting rid of crappy cards is so hard cus sometimes you need like 5 or 10 of them to refine into an item and when you only need one more... it's such a pain

[Heath]

When I started to properly play Triple Triad in FFVIII, it was the Random rule I really hate. I like to at least have a degree of choice over which cards to use, rather than being lumbered with a bunch of rubbish cards plus a character card, meaning that the risk of losing the character card is much higher because your other cards can't pick up the slack.

[Skyblade]

And the mome rath rubah outgrabe

Random is what gives the game quality.

You can relate it to the general gameplay of ff8 (or ff in general really)

1) there are physical and magical attacks
2) there are little other techniques and statuses that no one ever uses because the first two are so successful.

1.a) there are really strong player cards that have amazing stats
2.a) there are other cards that no one ever bothers with because the player cards are so successful.

Random is the game's little way to remind you that being able to obliterate everything isn't the only kind of fun you should be striving for. Earning your obliteration through cunning and skill is also worth striving for.

Ok, let's use that analogy.

Is there anyone around who would not quit playing an FF game that randomly decided on your battle party at the start of each engagement, forcing you to over level some characters, underlevel others, and use characters you hate? Sorry, but Random isn't "quality", it's just annoying.

[rubah]

We call that final fantasy 4, actually. Except it was decided for the whole game 8) Also, that analogy was from september ;P way to be belated in replying.

If you don't play with random, it's just boring after a while. The point of games is to CHALLENGE you. If you have a similar card set to your opponent, then winning random battles consistancy is a sign of skill. Edea, for example 8)

Seriously, if you're playing the game just so you can win every time, that's a terrible reason. But maybe you prefer games where you aren't a few potions away from total annihilation the entire time (like I was with ff4 incidentally xD)

[toad626]

I not only hated that rule. I hated all of triple triad. It sucked that you had to play it to get the best weapons. Terrible terrible mini game and the one who came up with it should be smacked. Tetra master was a little better.

[Bloodline666]

You know, I successfully got Random abolished in every region except for two: Lunar Gate (which has every rule intact, and I don't think you can get any of them abolished) and Trabia. Well, I got Random abolished in Trabia, but forgot to save, and that cost me dearly when I fought an Elnoyle in Esthar and was ill-prepared for it (and couldn't escape, either), and when I re-started my game after the subsequent "Game Over", I was too lazy to make an abolition attempt on Random in Trabia all over again. That cost me on the Ragnarok in Disc 4, when CC Diamond had Trabia's rules, and I spread it to another CC member on the Ragnarok!

As for the Queen Of Cards sidequest, I cheated on that one...simply by throwing the games against the Queen of Cards and using the first four cards she wanted, regardless of her location. I experimented with it, and it worked. Only took her two trips to Dollet for me to complete it because of it.

[Xurts]

And the mome rath Bloodline666 outgrabe

You know, I successfully got Random abolished in every region except for two: Lunar Gate (which has every rule intact, and I don't think you can get any of them abolished) and Trabia. Well, I got Random abolished in Trabia, but forgot to save, and that cost me dearly when I fought an Elnoyle in Esthar and was ill-prepared for it (and couldn't escape, either), and when I re-started my game after the subsequent "Game Over", I was too lazy to make an abolition attempt on Random in Trabia all over again. That cost me on the Ragnarok in Disc 4, when CC Diamond had Trabia's rules, and I spread it to another CC member on the Ragnarok!

You can actually abolish Lunar's rules. Each time you play there's a chance a rule will be abolished, and from there you can mix the abolished rule until every other rule gets abolished. While you're in space you can only abolish one though; you have to wait until you land back on the planet to abolish the rest.