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If there is a model of JME on the present time and a developed version on the future where are they?We donīt see it on the game.
Squaresoft tends to back up what they say on script with game events even when there were unimportant things.
For example,Square says that the capsule landed on Esthar.
And,voila,when we search through the continent we found the capsule.
That scene has the main purpose of backing up what Square said.I donīt think it was just to play cards.

So they must back up the JME concept whith in game events.
But I didnīt found JME anywhere.

Do you see anything on the game that could be JME on Esthar and on Ultimeciaīs time?
Old 11-01-2005, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Future Esthar
If there is a model of JME on the present time and a developed version on the future where are they?We don´t see it on the game.
As long as we know someone invented it and it is mentioned so we know of its' existence with a sorceress far in the future using the better version of it is pretty enough.

So what you think is important if the player come in contact with the machine?

Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Squaresoft tends to back up what they say on script with game events even when there were unimportant things.
For example,Square says that the capsule landed on Esthar.
And,voila,when we search through the continent we found the capsule.
That scene has the main purpose of backing up what Square said.I don´t think it was just to play cards.
What do you think it is for then?

Originally Posted by Future Esthar
So they must back up the JME concept whith in game events.
But I didn´t found JME anywhere.

Do you see anything on the game that could be JME on Esthar and on Ultimecia´s time?
We didn't see Hyne in the game either......So what do you think Squall and CO should do with the JME if they see it and possesses it?
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As long as we know someone invented it and it is mentioned so we know of its' existence with a sorceress far in the future using the better version of it is pretty enough.
What I mean is that Square tends to back up concepts involving objects,places and events showing us the objects and the places somewhere on the game.


What do you think it is for then?
Duh!!!!
Didn´t I already answered that?

We didn't see Hyne in the game either......So what do you think Squall and CO should do with the JME if they see it and possesses it?
Don´t mess things.
Hyne is a legend,JME not.
Who said anything about using the machine?
I just said we should be able to find the machine somewhere on the game.
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jme could be beyond the door in the basement level in lunatic pandora lab...
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Originally Posted by Future Esthar
What I mean is that Square tends to back up concepts involving objects,places and events showing us the objects and the places somewhere on the game.
Ya, the machine is with Odine most probably and with Ultimecia in the future. Square did tell you about the machine and tell you its location anyway. Whether you see it or not is a different issue.

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Duh!!!!
Didn´t I already answered that
I think the main reason of Square ever bother to mention it in the first place is for us to play cards.....if you think there is some other reasons, feel free to share....

Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Don´t mess things.
Hyne is a legend,JME not.
Legend cannot appear in the game....??? What make you think that anyway. Here is something said by Edea....

So the time has come. You're the legendary SeeD destined to face me?
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Who said anything about using the machine?
I didn't said of using it, I am just asking you a question what will/might happen if Squall and CO come in contact with the machine,

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I just said we should be able to find the machine somewhere on the game.
Ya, like FF VII we have all those 1/35 soldiers, tissue, an exact copy of the masamume blade...etc. And what do we do with it? Just put it in the inventory as collectors. Anyway, does it really matters so much to you to have this item "Junction Machine Ellone" in your inventory or you can catch a glance of it to satisfy you.... The "Proof Of Omega" is more satisfying....

Originally Posted by Neco Arc
jme could be beyond the door in the basement level in lunatic pandora lab...
Or somewhere in Odine's lab.......

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Actually, I agree with FE(god forbid) on this one, in the sense that I think it was a bit odd of them never showing the machine when it was so important. I guess it might be because it would have to be in Ultimecias castle(some hidden tower or basement perhaps?) and a hi-tech device like the JME would spoil the dungeon look.
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The machine was briefly introduced near the end of Disc 3 and was used by Ultimecia to send her conscious to possess sorceress of the past.

It answered the question of why Ultimecia is able to appear in the past.
But that machine has it limits as mentioned by Dr Odine and only Ellone can take Ultimecia further back into the past to compress time.

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But ze machine must have a
limit. Ultimecia probably needs to go back further in time to achieve
time compression. Only Ellone can take her back further into ze past
So JME basically tell us how Ultimecia send her conscious to the past.

And Odine already mentioned that he invented it and in the future, it got improved and Ultimecia possess it.

Whether to show a picture or sight of the machine is pretty optional....

Something to take note of is Dr Odine won't let his precious invention came into possession of Squall or even let them see it since he might have the idea they might want to destroy it, not to mention Ultimecia who practically rely on it.....

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