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ROFLMAO.

That's exactly my point. It's nice to think of Laguna and Julia being these torn apart lovers because of the Squall-Rinoa thing, but in reality where's the evidence?
Old 07-27-2003, 08:36 PM
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That they loved each other? Well, Laguna was quite clearly smitten with Julia, and Julia DID make a song because she was pining away for him, so I assume there must have been SOMETHING brewing between them.
Old 07-27-2003, 08:45 PM
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Laguna had a crush on a cute piano player he'd never spoken to. Julia was a song writer who wrote a song about a soldier who was called away for duty. It's not exactly anything special.
Old 07-27-2003, 09:16 PM
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Well they have spoken... once, and Julia DID mention that she had her eye on Laguna ("Did you ever know, that I had my eye on you?"). And Kiros DOES mention that Julia waited for Laguna quite a while, and Caraway got close to her as he was comforting her. The song is about Lagune I think. Laguna himself at least feels pretty referred to.

Raine

"I read in a magazine that her true love went off to war and never came

back."

"General Caraway comforted her while she was feeling down. That's how they got to know each other."



Kiros

"...So she didn't wait for the soldier to come back...?"



Laguna

"So what! Who cares!?"

"As long as she's happy, right? That's all that matters!"
Now, okay, magazines aren't great harbringers of truth. But we can at least agree I hope there was a budding relationship. Heck, if not for the mission they'd be together pretty soon I think.

Oh yeah, Julia also mentioned that it was because of Laguna she suddenly felt like she could actually sing, so I think we can safely say the first song is a lovesong for Laguna.
Old 07-27-2003, 09:30 PM
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Oh I know. Maybe there would have been love there. But in real life would you think that a soldier meeting a girl in a bar then leaving was this huge deal. Thinking people are attractive isn't a big deal, and it certainly doesn't mean love.
I'm just saying I don't think it was anything special the way the game showed it. I'm sure they were in love as it's a game and fate and etc. But that's the only reason.
Old 07-27-2003, 10:15 PM
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But it also sounds to me like Laguna was somewhat hurt that Julia went and married someone else. His reaction:
"So what! Who cares!? "As long as she's happy, right? That's all that matters!"
Sounds almost sarcastic to me. I think Laguna realized that it was silly to think she'd wait that long for him when he made no effort to contact her, but part of him hoped she had, and was dissapointed that she didn't. I mean, even Kiros and Ward, his best friends, had no clue what had happened to him or even if he was alive. Plus, Laguna really didn't start to consider his feelings for Raine until AFTER he hears of Julia's marriage, even though Raines' feelings for him are pretty apparent from the start.

It is true, however, that thry could have done more with it, which is why if Square ever considers doing a sequel to FF8, I think a prequel would be the most fitting, dealing with the first Sorceress War and Raine, Laguna, and Julia. It would clear a lot of things up.
Old 07-27-2003, 10:18 PM
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A nice mix I guess, dissapointement, and a fair dose of guilt towards Julia, and shame towards Raine (he didn't mention to Raine he had... not quite a relationship with Julia. It wasn't like he had a reason to hide it from her right? She was just a good friend. But then... he didn't have a reason to tell her. Yeah, that's the ticker)

I wouldn't say sarcasm though. Can you imagine LAGUNA being sarcastic? More of a 'I don't like the way this conversation is going' After all, he did try to shush Kiros over the whole 'crush' he had.

You may notice that I absolutely don't call Julia a slut. In fact, it's Laguna's behaviour that seems the most shameful to me. After all, he DID promise to meet with Julia again. Least he could do was a 'hey, I'm currently healing of having almost every bone in my body broken' message, even IF he's fallen in love with Raine by then. For all he knew she was STILL pining away from him while he was making up his mind whether he loved Raine or not.

Bad Laguna, no cookie....
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*nods*
Yeah, sarcasm was probably not the right word, but a "not liking the way the conversation was going" is what I had in mind when I said it. I also agree that I think Laguna is more to blame for the falling through of that relationship since he never contacted Julia, although I still think he held dissapointment over the fact she didn't wait forever. Not that I expected her to.
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