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So to summarise. Laguna and Julia weren't ripped apart by cicrumstances. They were ripped apart by Laguna's stupidity and lack of interest.
There children would have been ripped apart by Squall's stupidity and lack of interest had Rinoa not been desperate and posessed by evil.

It's so romantic.
Old 07-28-2003, 03:23 AM
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Laguna and Julia weren't ripped apart by cicrumstances. They were ripped apart by Laguna's stupidity and lack of interest.
Well... that, and the fact that he nearly died and had to deal with the small matter of recovering. What was he supposed to do...

"Hi Raine. Thanks for nursing me back to health, but I'm going to go now without repaying your kindness, because there's this singer in the capital city I've got a crush on."

Laguna's a shy individual, not very confident with women, so he probably didn't realise just how much he meant to Julia and never expected her to wait for him.
He kind of got swept away by events in Winhill and Esthar, too. He couldn't just walk away and risk/sacrifice the lives of others just to pursue romantic possibilities.
Old 07-28-2003, 03:32 AM
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He left her for work. Didn't attempt to contact her, or even tell Raine how important she was, or try and make it back to Galbadia.
I'm not saying it would have been easy, but for real love he could have at least tried.
Old 07-28-2003, 02:13 PM
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Well... that, and the fact that he nearly died and had to deal with the small matter of recovering. What was he supposed to do...

"Hi Raine. Thanks for nursing me back to health, but I'm going to go now without repaying your kindness, because there's this singer in the capital city I've got a crush on."
Well no. But nobody says he's gotta wait till he's back to full health. As soon as he can speak he could ask her to get the mesage to Deling City that he was still alive. It's not like he was married to her, but there had been an agreement for another meeting. There was a clear mutul romantic interest. He should have mentioned it to Raine early on. That would have killed any romance with Raine before it began (so it wouldn't be emotionally painful for Raine) and I sincerely doubt Raine would have wanted him to stay, if she knew another woman was waiting for him. And the rest of the village? They wanted him out ASAP.

Laguna's a shy individual, not very confident with women, so he probably didn't realise just how much he meant to Julia and never expected her to wait for him.
And that weakness caused Julia much pain.

He kind of got swept away by events in Winhill and Esthar, too. He couldn't just walk away and risk/sacrifice the lives of others just to pursue romantic possibilities. [/quote]

Granted. He couldn't walk away of Adel. For one, he had promised to help defeat Adel in exchange for help in saving Ellone. But why didn't he return afterwards? It wasn't like Esthar would collapse if he would leave right? And after he pushed a mega-powerful Sorceress to her doom with his own two hands, I THINK we can safely say he's paid his debt to the Esthar people for helping him free Ellone. But he became president of Esthar. Now TWO possibilities

A: He expected Ellone to return to Raine, not knowing Raine had died giving birth to Squall in the meantime. Bad marks for NOT returning to his wife after paying back his debt to the Esthari people.

B: He DID know about Raine's death in childbirth. WORSE marks, as he might not desert his wife, but he DID desert his son. Granted, that son was probably already in the oprhanage for a while by the time he could honorably return (after Adel's death) but I'm sure Edea would trust him with parenthood of Squall (and if he's fast, with Sis) Heck, the least he could do was giving his son some sign that he was still alive.

Don't get me wrong. I LIKE Laguna. But the man is NOT morally perfect. In a way, his problem is the opposite of Squall. Squall doesn't make any attachements to people. Laguna makes them too easily, and forgets old attachements in favour of the new ones. He abbandoned Julia to Raine, and Squall to Esthar.
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Stop using his work as a soldier as an excuse. Did you ever talk to Julia's bodyguard in the bar? He was a higher officer than Julia. He actually threatened Laguna for going near Julia by saying he'd ship Laguna off far, far away from Deling. At least... I think so...
Old 07-29-2003, 11:43 PM
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what happened to Julia after she gave birth to Rinoa?
Old 07-30-2003, 06:42 AM
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Julia probably just took care of Rinoa while her father was away with the military. Thats probably why she never hard any bad feelings for her mother in fact she felt Rinoa said that she use to feel most comfortable when her Mom was holding her.
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Hmmm...If I'am not mistakin, Julia must be deceased because Rinoa uses the past tense when she talkes about her mother.
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