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The way I see it is this, we dont know how well seifer is equipped via his GFs. From a gameplay perspective, we dont know what hes junctioned with, or GF abilities equipped. Theres 2 ways to see the confrontations with Seifer:

Seifer is equally geared as Squall in terms of magic and GFs. This is how you actually see it in the game (or at least, I guess supposed to see it), and in this way Squall typically whoops Seifer with no trouble. Like someone said, even in the 3v1 fights, if you have spent time gearing up with Squall, Seifer 1v1 still wouldnt beat Squall. In this situation, you could assume that once Squall becomes a SeeD, his power grows faster than Seifers.

However, if you look at it from a non-gameplay perspective, Seifer is probably stronger in terms of 1v1 fighting. Squall beats Seifer in Delving, yep, but I personally think that after that point, Seifer becomes stronger than Squall. It takes a group of 3 to defeat Odin, and Seifer does it in 1 blow. If thats not enough, every time after Delving you encounter Seifer, you fight him as a full group. GFs and Junctions aside, if Squall was stronger than Seifer he would probably opt to whoop his butt personally, without dragging the others into it. By the time disk 3 rolls around, Squall would no longer be able to stand up to Seifer 1 on 1, and he must rely on his friends. Which is actually the way the story is supposed to work. The whole strength in numbers routine. Individually, Squall might be weaker than Seifer, but by Disk 3 he trusts his allies to watch his back, and you could argue that because of his friends, Squall is a stronger person

Anyways, just a rant. In terms of personal power, Seifer wins in the end imo. But storyline wise, most would prefer being surrounded by trustworthy allies who fight for you no matter what, which is where Squalls strength lies
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The way I see it is this, we dont know how well seifer is equipped via his GFs. From a gameplay perspective, we dont know what hes junctioned with, or GF abilities equipped.
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He doesn't own GF, remember disc 1 then you had a change to play with him?
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What a stupid question.

Squall needed his friends to beat Summon(s). Seifer killed one in a single strike.
Squall needed the help of the party(again) to fight Seifer. But Seifer was alone(at least in the last battle at Lunatic Pandora).

Unless Squall got stronger after killing the monsters in Ultimecia's Castle, the answer to this question is obvious.
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Originally Uttered by Gilthanes View Post
The way I see it is this, we dont know how well seifer is equipped via his GFs. From a gameplay perspective, we dont know what hes junctioned with, or GF abilities equipped.
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He doesn't own GF, remember disc 1 then you had a change to play with him?
If he doesnt have a GF then how can he use magic? And how are we able to draw spells from him if he has no junctioned magic?
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What a stupid question.

Squall needed his friends to beat Summon(s). Seifer killed one in a single strike.
Squall needed the help of the party(again) to fight Seifer. But Seifer was alone(at least in the last battle at Lunatic Pandora).

Unless Squall got stronger after killing the monsters in Ultimecia's Castle, the answer to this question is obvious.
Not that simple. *hint* - Squall's limit breaks.
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If he doesnt have a GF then how can he use magic? And how are we able to draw spells from him if he has no junctioned magic?
How can monsters and bosses without GF use magic? This game doesn't make sense. So don't try to apply logic @ Seifer alone.
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Not that simple. *hint* - Squall's limit breaks.
Exactly. Even with his Limit Breaks he needed help to fight Seifer.
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If he doesnt have a GF then how can he use magic? And how are we able to draw spells from him if he has no junctioned magic?
How can monsters and bosses without GF use magic? This game doesn't make sense. So don't try to apply logic @ Seifer alone.
I guess it just means that Seifer's using the same kind of magic as the Galbadian Army. Para-magic that requires GFs is just one way of allowing regular humans to cast spells; there are clearly other system in use around the world. Monsters and sorceresses can cast spells with their own inherent power, and some humans can cast under certain circumstances (Blue Magic and Slot limit breaks). But there are also artificial means of getting the same result; GFs are just one of those.
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