Eyes on Final Fantasy Forums > Final Fantasy: The Quickening > Final Fantasy VII > Ok.....if FFVII is considered the greatest game ever, why do so many ppl hate it?

[Necronopticous]

Final Fantasy VII brought a lot of innovation to the series but so did every other game, I loved Final Fantasy VII, but I loved the others in the series equally as much. I hate people that blow off the other games in the series and hold Final Fantasy VII as the only good installment. Some of these people I suspect have not even played any of the other games, and some I suspect have not even completed VII.

Frusterating.

[Shoden]

ok one thing how long do you think it takes? graphic designs music composing voice overs SFX animation theres more but those are just some things it can vary from 7 months to 4 years

[TheAbominatrix]

You answered that yourself. It varies. With the amount of people Square has working on it, I highly doubt it would take two years. I might, but I doubt it.

Regardless, I refuse to believe every person on the internet who says these things. If I believed all of them, I'd go insane. It's ridiculous to believe these people, who have no proof.

[Sepho]

I've yet to read the entire thread, but I will and I'll edit my post when I'm done. However, this post caught my attention immediately:

Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix

Most people are annoyed by the fact that this is the one everyone is a slathering fanbody over, and that a great many have ignored the series before it. I think VI is by far the greatest game ever, and most certainly the greatest FF.

This really hits the nail on the head. I think FF7 may be a little bit higher on my personal list of favorites then that of TheAbominatrix (it's either third or fourth, for the record ), but FF7 has, by far, the largest following of fanboys of any game ever made. Many of the players who weren't playing RPGs prior to the PS1 generation of consoles won't give the 2D titles a second look. Granted, the general population of users of these forums don't seem to be serious offenders in that respect, and on the other hand, there are a good many people who have played the majority of the games in the series, and yet still hold FF7 as their favorite, and that's fine. The title of "Best FF" is a subjective one - it's all a matter of individual opinion, and that's a point that has been reiterated dozens of times throughout the history of the boards and should go without saying at this point.

I won't lie and say I grew up playing the FF games. The first one I played was FF7 (and to make it worse, several years after it was initially released. In fact, it introduced me to RPGs like it did so many other gamers who currently enjoy the genre), but I still had no problem going back playing the older games. I've played them all, and finished them all besides 3j and 5j. My personal favorite is VI, and not because giving that answer solidifies one's position as a respectable veteran.

VII is a good game, but even though I feel it's a futile argument to make, I still must say it's truely the most overrated game in the series. I like it - I've played through it six times - but there were FF titles released prior to, and following, VII.

I also share the sentiments of many users that Sephy wasn't really that wonderful. He's somewhat cliche'd, and there are much more original villains out there (like FFVI's Kefka).

EDIT: Just finished reading most of the thread, and noticed that most of what I just said is support for arguments already established.

EDIT2:

Originally Posted by Destai

Would you say a lot of VI fans despise VII?

I feel that perhaps there are some FFVI fans that exaggerate the negativity of their opinion towards FF7 (whether it's a conscious action or not), out of annoyance at the fans who praise FF7 as the Great One. If that's the point that you're trying to make, then it's a good one.

[Destai]

The largest difference that stands out to me is the Dark Modern theme. When it comes to RPG's in general I dislike the past medieval theme that all the other FF's have before VII. How many RPG's have the same theme as VII? It certainly strikes me as unique in that way.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Originally Posted by Destai

The largest difference that stands out to me is the Dark Modern theme. When it comes to RPG's in general I dislike the past medieval theme that all the other FF's have before VII. How many RPG's have the same theme as VII? It certainly strikes me as unique in that way.

Uhm VI wasn't medieval, there was definitely technology, in fact MAGItechnology. But that's not the point. I like the medieval theme sometimes, and sometimes the futuristic thing. But hey, they're all fantasy so whatever.

THE JACKAL

[TheAbominatrix]

There are a good number with the 'modern' theme. I'm playing Arc the Lad: Twilight of Spirits as we speak, and it's a modern one. I personally dont find VII too dark, save for the parts in Midgar. Offhand I cant think of many, but there have been more with modern themes.

[Sepho]

I edit my post to include one of your quotes, and by the time I get back the thread, you had already posted again .

I understand what you're saying about the atmosphere of FF7. It has a bunch of different themes mixed into one (including general sci-fi, with a little bit of a post-apocalyptic feel in some situations), and it makes it somewhat unique. I would also have to say that any futuristic setting is a good contrast to the medievil worlds typically found in RPGs (though, I'd like to point out that futuristic, or at least "modern" backdrops seem to prevalent in RPGs of recent years).

However, I don't think it's any more unique then, say, FF8, with the military theme and a world revolving around war. Also, I would hardly label FF6 as your standard swords n' shields adventure either. It had many different elements in its story and setting that held it above the norm. Although some of the town maps would lead you to believe otherwise, FFVI was more sci-fi than anything, what with Magitek technology and what have you.

EDIT: And now there's two posts between that and this one. You guys are fast today .