Eyes on Final Fantasy Forums > Final Fantasy: The Quickening > Final Fantasy VII > Ok.....if FFVII is considered the greatest game ever, why do so many ppl hate it?

[DJZen]

I just don't like the direction that the direction took with FFVII. It was really not the first game to head in this direction. FFVI was trying just as hard to be that epic and cinematic, but as we all know, cartridges have teh s uck. It was the introduction of FMV and detailed character models into the series that really made it so different. Suddenly we can spend 5 hours watching the characters talk about their feelings. I'm not saying these things wouldn't have happened in an earlier game, but they didn't. Not to that extent anyway. It was the things that these games introduced that people latched on to. Suddenly what made an RPG and RPG changed.

Am I bitter about it? Yes.

People have a seriously distorted historical perspective of the game. There is no one feature of the game (graphics, sound, etc.) that had not already been done better. People are also quick to dish out hate on Ted Woolsey for his habit of completely changing things in his scripts, but these same people tend to neglect how terrible the translation of FFVII was. Was it a good game? Sure. Was it the best ever? I don't think so. It certainly isn't the best selling RPG of all time. Only Enix's games get to claim that honor. My point is that I am indeed bitter but only because I don't think FFVII deserves all the praise it gets. It's a fun a game and I like it, but I'd be hard pressed to care less about the characters in it. Except Heidegger of course, but that's only because he exceeds the confines of the genre.

Really, I don't get what the fuss is over Cloud. Or Sephiroth for that matter. Is it the big sword thing? Or is it just that they both look feminine? Perhaps it's a combination of the two. In any event, FFVII changed the face of RPGs forever. I just think we coulda found a better archetype. Like Square's Tom Sawyer for example.

[YukiKiro]

i will agree, everyone thinks he's great because he destroyed a village and killed aeris, a village of defencless people and 1 major character, and he spent the rest of the game on the run, reall bad ass... i personnaly like ffVIII better, i don't know why. ffVII was a great game, yeah, but the best, don't count on it.

[anima977]

Look at it this way. George DUBYA Bush got the most votes of any president and is also the most HATED world leader of recent memory ( he has had more protesters than Hitler did.)
get it?
for the record, i hope Bush is removed from office before 2008.
bring on the Dean/Edwards card for 2008!!!!!!

[Kenshin IV]

Yay for comparing video games to politics!

I'm sure these reasons have been stated before, but reasons people don't like it usually have to do with A) Everyone loves it, so that automatically means some people HAVE to hate it B) It's not 2D, and anything 3D = Satan, or C) Hey, guess what? They actually legitametly didn't care for it.

The last reason seams to be the most uncommon, though.

[TheAbominatrix]

It's the most common in this thread.

[Born of Fantasy]

Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix

Yes, because if we dont like your game the best, we're obviously just bitter. Get off it, that's such a cop out explination. It's not my favorite because it's not my favorite. I've listed numerous reasons why it's not my favorite, as has everyone else. And all we get in return is 'You're just bitter'. How childish.

I'm sorry if you just read the beginning of my post and missed the rest of it. I stated that both of them are great games and Final Fantasy VI was in fact the whole reason I started playing Final Fantasy. And the reason why I believe their is bitternes is only redefined when you say "your" game and "our" game. I already stated I have no affiliaton on either side. So statements like this come from unease and or complete objection. People don't have to like Final Fantasy VII the best or Final Fantasy VI the best. They can prefere either or. I would recomend that you don't knock it till you have really played the game, all the way through, then your view can be objective. Just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it isn't A. The best or B. A great game. A title like "the best" cannot be given unless a large amount of people feel that way and, while I am not stating Final Fantasy VII is the greatest game of all time, it did however gain the title of "A greatest hit." Now whoever started this whole idea that anyone specific game is the greatest game of all time, and apparenty in this case someone heard it was Final Fantasy VII, said person is only stating their opinion. And the same goes for the people who say Final Fantasy VI is better. I am also stating an opinion when I say I think both are great games. However I have an objective view having played them both. Still it is an opinion. Someone may think they both suck. But this bitter feud between the two sides is ignorant, at best that is. Opinions are opinions and this doesn't make any side right. Different strokes for different folks.

[TheAbominatrix]

I read your entire post. I still dont see why that makes it fine to say our dislike is bitterness. I dont even see this debate as a 'bitter fued', except for a few people making snide little comments to belittle how we feel.

Dont knock a game till I've played it all the way through? I've beaten FFVII three times. I suggest you take your own advice and accept that some people simply dont like your favorite game. And yes I will continue to use 'your' and 'our'

[udsuna]

Yeah, what he said. (edit: SHE said... sorry, Abominatrix)
I loved FF7- it just lacks originality (and if you've played FFs 1-6, you'll know what I'm talking about, if not: well, you can't possibly make fair argument.) And since making a game that isn't a clone is a requirement for ANY self-respecting critique, FF7 lost by default.