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wow it seems i was quick with the Pal Europe and NTSC differences

Chrono Trigger is out in the UK it was released with FFIV as Final Fantasy chronicles i can get tactics and Xenosaga off a thing called eBay.

i havent played tactics at all but i have played tactics advance.

*gets some beer and drinks it he fills half the bottle with diesel Petrol and Meth (white spirit) he puts a cotten wool and fuse mixture into the top of it he shakes it around lights the fuse and throws it and then runs like hell not caring where it lands (caravan comes to mind actual;ly happened last year in my street once)*

soz for going off topic ive had a mass sugar overload
Old 02-11-2005, 07:38 PM
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It's really a question of reality.
The reality remains that Final Fantasy VII is the most beloved rpg game of all time,
it may sound corny to a lot of people but the fact remains.
Personally Final Fantasy VIII is my favorite, but I also adore Final Fantasy VII to the core.
Old 02-11-2005, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FallenAngel411
Just curious.....I mean, I've been looking around the forum here (I'm a newbie ) and I was surprised at how many people seem to totally HATE the game, and write out long, long, LOOOOOONG (but vastly entertaining) explanations on why it sucks, and debate its suckiness, and the ugliness of the hair, and.......why do so many people hate Cloud??? I just came off a forum where they were bashing him so badly that I flinched a few times.

Greatest game ever + greatest villain of all time + most beloved character death scene + best soundtrack ever = THE LAMEST FF OF THE SERIES

Mind you, that whole equation is not necessarily MY opinion, merely what I garnered was the general consensus of planet earth BEFORE seeing this forum (but I've heard plenty of ppl call it the lamest FF). But still, it doesn't add up. What gives??? Why does everyone seem to love it, yet be annoyed by it??? It's......weird.
Where to begin?

I don't hate FF7; I actually love it, but I can understand the frustration.
You see, even though FF6 was popular, it wasn't that popular. FF games were equated to that of a cult. Those of us who played them were few and far between, and you were a cool special unique person if you did. Then FF7 came out and suddenly everyone thought they were FF experts because they beat Sephiroth. The tiny little franchise we could fit in our back pocket suddenly exploded, and even I resent those who have only played the newer ones. There's so much to be enjoyed in the older ones, and if 7 hadn't come along, then the franchise would still be enjoyable. But thanks to the new audience that 7 opened up, Squaresoft stopped focusing on the game/story/etc. and put too much effort into graphics, because that's all this new audience cared about. Before, the graphics were terrible, but they were sufficient. We played the early FFs for the stories and gameplay. The graphics had 0% sway in my desicion to buy FF3 when it came out for the SNES.

Now onto your points presented:

calling FF7 the greatest game ever is unfair statement unlesss you've actually played every game ever made. Obviously you haven't, and your opinion is valid and all, but that's not too much evidence for your case.

Kefka from FF6 is a way better villian Sephiroth. Sephiroth is cool and all, but he's not that evil. His intentions actually seem a bit noble. Trying to stop the evil people from destorying the earth and moving into the promised land. Sephiroth is almost a good guy, but he goes about it in the wrong way. Kefka on the other hand, is genuinely of the criminally insane. He's f***ing nuts. He kills people because he's bored. Sephiroth only killed those that he thought needed to die or were standing in his way.

Beloved character death scene... Yeah, I have to agree with you there. When (SPOILER) Aeris died, I initially thought it was a dream (because I was playing at like 1AM at the time), and until I completed the game, I figured she was coming back at some point.

As far as the best soundtrack goes, it does have an excellent soundtrack, but the general consensus is that FF6 is Nobuo Uematsu's finest work. Nobuo himself said so, in an interview right before the release of FF9. 7 has a memorable soundtrack, and the songs fit the situations very well. But FF6 is just in-friggin-credible, and FF4 is very good too.

Cloud is hated because of his cocky "don't care" attitude. Most main characters have compassion and care about the cause they fight for. Cloud rarely shows emotion. The other main characters have a vast range of emotions, and Cloud gets sad a few times, but I dont' recall him ever getting happy or excited. Squall (from FF8) was the same way, just worse (which pretty much ruined the game). They both had that "lone bad-a**" persona, which isn't a good persona for a main character. You can't pin that tag on FF6 because I don't think it has a defined main character, but that's a whole different topic.

Sorry about the long post, but it was kinda necessary to say what I needed to say.

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meh I still prefer 7 but the title of best music goes to VIII almost every piece in the game was top form 6 seconds to that then 4 then 7 but the thing is many people could arhue for years and not prove the point ive finished 8 9 10 and 3 but i dont tiel myself as a FF master i think 7 is the best in series because its my favourite but we have to respect other oppinions as long as they dont go outta hand and becomes dictation and facism.
Final Fantasy became very popular when 7 came out but because of that many gamers never play 6 or below they are pretty good games except 3 and below which sucked really really bad.
i have my reasons for liking VII but dont take a hippy fit over it.
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Originally Posted by Shoden
Chrono Trigger is out in the UK it was released with FFIV as Final Fantasy chronicles i can get tactics and Xenosaga off a thing called eBay.
i havent played tactics at all but i have played tactics advance.
>.<............

No you cant play any of those games! *STRESSED* The chrono series, Xeno series or FFT. You cant play any of them without hard to find and possibly illegal setup because theyre NTSC format. (they dont work on European PS2,s, DVD players etc.)
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calling FF7 the greatest game ever is unfair statement unlesss you've actually played every game ever made. Obviously you haven't, and your opinion is valid and all, but that's not too much evidence for your case.
Just because I hate looking bad, I would like to clear up that that's actually not my opinion, only what I've heard said about the game over and over and over again up until I entered these forums. My whole point was that everyone seemed to think it epitomized the perfect game up until I came here and found people bashing it like crazy. It just kinda surprised me, that's all. I love FFVII, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it the greatest game ever, either. That would be quite fan-boyish. Or fan-girlish, in my case. I'm not the type of person who goes around squealing that one thing is better than everything else in existence.

Now Zelda.......NOTHING compares to Zelda. It is golden, and holy. Bow before the power of the Master Sword, ye of inferior opinions.

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Now Zelda.......NOTHING compares to Zelda. It is golden, and holy. Bow before the power of the Master Sword, ye of inferior opinions.
whoo Tetra forever!
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