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Then you might as well call Shinra from Final Fantasy X-2 to true villain of Final Fantasy VII.
Old 09-16-2009, 02:39 PM
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I've never played X-2...I have yet to finish X...so I'm not a hundred percent sure what you're talking about. hahaha
Old 09-16-2009, 09:25 PM
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simple, the ShinRa family in FFVII are descended from Shinra in FFX-2... yes this is official and on record in the FFX-2 Ultimania... no Spira and Gaia are not the same planet, but they are in the same universe...
Old 09-17-2009, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Elly ^
simple, the ShinRa family in FFVII are descended from Shinra in FFX-2... yes this is official and on record in the FFX-2 Ultimania... no Spira and Gaia are not the same planet, but they are in the same universe...
And is a complete retcon. A writer can ay anything after the fact. Kitase could say Aerith is a shape shifting dog if he wanted to. It doesn't make it any more accurate.

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Old 09-17-2009, 03:38 PM
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It's not a retcon if there wasn't anything contradicting it beforehand. It's a savig grace for the Planet as a whole, frankly. It's one thing for the entire world to fall under the dominion of an incompetent businessman in 40 years flat, but at least now this guy wasn't the first to think "hey, let's try to use this green light as energy." Rather his greatgreatgrandfather made landfall on this planet with that idea in mind specifically.
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Originally Posted by Jaffer ^
Then you might as well call Shinra from Final Fantasy X-2 to true villain of Final Fantasy VII.

That's like saying Hitlers mum was the true cause of WW2. Shinra didn't have evil in mind when he came up with the idea.

Btw, I can't believe they made that offical, that's bull. I like FF games being separate. Sounds like they just went; "oh he's called Shinra, let's mix up the games a little bit because I'm bored".
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Wow seriously?

I agree with you, Crop. That is bull. They should have named him a different name rather than make a descendant from...Shinra in Gaia.

Now that I understand what's going on, no, the Shinra from FFX-2 shouldn't be blamed for what the company did in VII. And why even connect those two? We're talking about VII. Not the series as a whole. The character Shinra is in an alternative world many years ahead, or whatever the deal is. and he's an Al Bhed! oh man this just doesn't work out! There's not even the slighest of mention of Al Bheds in Gaia! Squarenix...you frustrate me.

Ugh. That gives me another reason not to play X-2.

Jaffer, no hard feelings ya? We just have two different definitions of what a villain is. =D I mean...yeah I do consider Sephiroth a villain...a very strong one. But I do feel he's given too much credit for the destruction he's caused. I believe that the manipulator behind a strong powerful villain has the same if not more responsibility for the world's destruction and you see this manipulator\puppet relationship in many games (at least the ones I know about).

IV = Golbez and Kain
VII = Shinra and Sephiroth
VIII = Edea\Seifer and Ultimecia
IX = Garland and Kuja
X = Yevon and the Maesters
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Kuri you have it backwards, the ShinRa family of Gaia (FFVII) are descended from Shinra of Spira (FFX-2), Spira came before Gaia, the ShinRa family are far descendants of the Al Bhed... Shinra from Spira designed the technology to harvest the energy of the Farplane as a source of power, the same tech used later by ShinRa Electric Power Company to harvest the power of the Lifestream in Gaia...

Sephiroth was the biggest threat simply because he could control Jenova, though the cause of that is due to Hojo's meddeling with his DNA in utero...
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