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[Nifleheim7]

Well said Omecle.^^

Just to make one thing clear.Having a writer doesn't mean he can write whatever he wants just as having a battle director doesn't mean he can do whatever he wants.Everything has to pass through the game director which often gives his own input in those kind of things more or less.
And i consider mr.Nomura a very charismatic director (but not as good as a concept artist) with a very clear vision on what he wants in his projects.

Yeah,i enjoyed AC,the graphics were really pushing the cg industry but i admit that the story could have been better...maybe some more development to the characters and their actions would have been better.But as a fan of VII i'm really grateful for this movie,especially if i compare it to the travesty that Spirits Within was.

[Hayabusa]

It was pretty awesome.

[Ashley Schovitz]

X-2 had more story than this movie

[Ishin Ookami]

Omacle, you don't have to worry about offending me. But I do think you are in the wrong. Nomura is undoubtibly a storytelling hack. He fancies himself a competent director, and worthy successor to sakaguchi. He is neither. You claim this is my opinion, but the fact is his style is one of style over substance and intelligence. His direction in AC was absolutely hideous. Twirling a sword or posing does not good action choreography make. And the writing, dear god it was awful. Not only that but his aping of John Woo for various scenes (kadaj leaping over fenrir, the gunplay from yazoo) was clumsy and over worked. And the whole wuxia inspired elements (leaping around like Crouching tiger on crack) was also awful and overdone. Espescially the cloud tossing. And specifically Vincent telling cloud to fly, when thats his gig. also I havn't met anyone who can explain to me how cloud pulled omnislash Ver. 967 1111 out of his arsenal when you clearly see sephiroth stab his sword arm, directly in the shoulder joint. I dont care how strong you make cloud out to be, all the mako on earth isn't going to move an arm when the muscles that control that arm have been sliced.

So yah, Nomura can't tell a coherant or well written story to save his life. I've never seen one from him. I hope someday he'll pull it off. I loved FF once and would like to see the old girl return to her former glory. But I doubt Nomura is the man to do it.

His main character's are always the same. angsty moody swordsmen, sorry but after Sakaguchi who always came up with different themes and different types of leading characters, thats just awful. The one time he (nomura)went away from his leading male character mold was in KHI, and he immediately fell back into that mold for KHII. That shows a distinct lack of creativity. and of course theres his female characters. Two dimensional at the best of times would be a flowery compliment to his incompetence on how to write a female lead. And I still think he designs his females while watching soft core porn.

You may like this style, you may not value storytelling, or value it as much as flash, but to say that nomura has any talent is sheer delusion.

As for examples to my points, I've given them. I hardly feel like repeating myself.

P.S.

Spirits Within was infinitely better then AC. Not perfect, But still better written, plotted, directed, and animated.

[Avarice-ness]

I watch it on mute. It's pretty to look at, but I'd rather not try to kill any brain cells on trying to keep with the failing story.

[Ishin Ookami]

And the mome rath Avarice-ness outgrabe:

I watch it on mute. It's pretty to look at, but I'd rather not try to kill any brain cells on trying to keep with the failing story.

That I can sort of agree with. I like the detail that went into some of the backdrops and other surrounding environments. There was a decent sense of creativity from the CGI artists (not mind blowing, but respectable) in that regard. But the animation made me laugh at times, it was so wooden at times I was wondering if I was watching a puppet show.

[Omecle]

You know, I agree with you a lot. So don't get me wrong. I really like Sakaguchi and the fact that Nobuo Uematsu is doing work for Mistwalker is absolutely awesome.

I don't really like the additions such as FF7oC, FFX-2, etc. But there has been some decent stuff in there. I do enjoy the KH series, and I don't really see anything wrong with it. But I guess you also have to understand that there's a lot of different people working with Nomura, and a lot of limitations that come in the industry, which need to be worked around.

However, the fact that all they seem to come out with are remakes (though I welcome them), does show they are slipping.

I guess my point was really that a lot of what you are saying is seemingly your opinion. I'm not really cool with people who just seem to criticize a lot of peoples work (that's in general), and impose it on others to feel the same way.

[cloud21zidane16]

And the mome rath sephiroth3991 outgrabe:

i really like it 10/10 for me I thought the voice acting was good except for Kadaj's lackies Yazoo and Loz and Loz was such a...dumb character the graphics were good the plot was good everything was good but yeah the mouthing was off.

yeah i agree, story wasnt great but it was a decent enough movie