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[Big D]

The movie gives enough clues and hints - the trio's obvious connection to Sephiroth and their desire to 'become whole again' by reuniting with Jenova's cells and bringing Sephiroth back, and so forth. It's also made quite clear that those fellows are manifest spirits, rather than 'real' people, when they absorb materia, and are completely dissipated by the healing rain at the end. Basically, a lot of things only truly make sense if you assume that Kadaj et al are incomplete remnants (another major hint) of Sephiroth.

Reading all the speculation and discussion around the forum was helpful, too.

[Sword]

Hmm I never thought of the possibility of him being the fake Sephiroth at the start of the game...I like that one. And some of your points too Big D - great stuff.

[sephireland]

FF VII without Sephiroth is like Jaws without the shark. The one thing that bothered me was the fact that he basically came into the game to have a fight and lose. This is an awful waste of a great character. I think if he'd come into the movie earlier and done some terrible things to Midgar and it's people it would've been a much better movie. And it would've made the stakes higher when Cloud and Sephiroth finally face off.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by sephireland ^

FF VII without Sephiroth is like Jaws without the shark. The one thing that bothered me was the fact that he basically came into the game to have a fight and lose. This is an awful waste of a great character. I think if he'd come into the movie earlier and done some terrible things to Midgar and it's people it would've been a much better movie. And it would've made the stakes higher when Cloud and Sephiroth finally face off.

Fine point there. However, I like that AC had a low death toll. The heroes actually managed to save everyone, or nearly everyone - compared to the grim and devastating loss of life in FFVII and the utterly wanton slaughter of innocents in DoC. The people of the world deserved a break, in my opinion

[The Crystal]

Originally Posted by sephireland ^

FF VII without Sephiroth is like Jaws without the shark. The one thing that bothered me was the fact that he basically came into the game to have a fight and lose. This is an awful waste of a great character. I think if he'd come into the movie earlier and done some terrible things to Midgar and it's people it would've been a much better movie. And it would've made the stakes higher when Cloud and Sephiroth finally face off.

But he did. Geostigma and the three "brothers" existed only because of him. He was fuc*ing the entire world(killing people and corrupting the Lifestream) during 2 years. This is very clear in his dialogue with Cloud in the begin of the fight.

And Midgar is a destroyed and desert city after the events of FFVII. He couldn't do some terrible things to the people of Midgar, because no one lives in Midgar anymore.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by The Crystal ^

And Midgar is a destroyed and desert city after the events of FFVII. He couldn't do some terrible things to the people of Midgar, because no one lives in Midgar anymore.

I'm guessing he was referring to the former citizens of Midgar - those who now reside in Edge, which is more-or-less an extension of the old city...

[sephireland]

Originally Posted by The Crystal ^

Originally Posted by sephireland ^

FF VII without Sephiroth is like Jaws without the shark. The one thing that bothered me was the fact that he basically came into the game to have a fight and lose. This is an awful waste of a great character. I think if he'd come into the movie earlier and done some terrible things to Midgar and it's people it would've been a much better movie. And it would've made the stakes higher when Cloud and Sephiroth finally face off.

But he did. Geostigma and the three "brothers" existed only because of him. He was fuc*ing the entire world(killing people and corrupting the Lifestream) during 2 years. This is very clear in his dialogue with Cloud in the begin of the fight.

And Midgar is a destroyed and desert city after the events of FFVII. He couldn't do some terrible things to the people of Midgar, because no one lives in Midgar anymore.

You're not wrong but my point is it just feels like Sephiroth was tagged on at the end. He should've been a HUGE part of the movie (he's on the freakin cover). A shame.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by sephireland ^

You're not wrong but my point is it just feels like Sephiroth was tagged on at the end. He should've been a HUGE part of the movie (he's on the freakin cover). A shame.

If he'd
been the main antagonist through the whole movie, though, a lot of viewers would've complained that it was too similar to the game - the same main villain being chased by the same heroes, with the same objectives on both sides. By keeping Sephiroth in the background, like a lurking presence, AC had an extra bit of mystery.