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Default Ultros has Connections with the Empire?! (Spoilers)

Is It me or does Ultros The Octopus seem to have connections with the empire?

Look at these:
[list=1][*]He First attacks When the empire are aproaching![*]He could have attacked ANYONE at the opera (Most Logigaly Sabin or Edgar) But heads strait for Celes Perhaps cause she's a traitor?[*]On the Black Jack The empire attack and Hey Look! It's Ultros!![*]The Guardian (One of the empires top Weapons) Has Ultros's battle Programe![/list=1]

Well?
Old 10-02-2003, 12:40 PM
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I doubt it.

1. But he attacks from a different way. It's doubtful the Empire was aware of the Lete River escape route, especially since they'd just learned the whereabouts of the Returner hide out. If they knew Banon, Terra, and King Edgar (all of whom they wanted very badly) would have a back way out, they would have sent forces in that way.
2. Ultros is a coward. The easiest thing to do was to attack Celes. Attacking the others would be stupid, since he'd already been beaten up by them before. Attacking Celes was the best way to disrupt the Opera, as well. Something he expresses interest in doing.
3. Probably coincidence.
4. The Guardian has tons of different battle programs from non-Emperial monsters.
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I think most of the true meaning of Ultros was cut out at the last minute (from what I've heard in the past). Ultros allied himself/was in competition with Ziegfried/Siegfried. During the third battle with Ultros he mentions his friend/rival concerning the small goddess statues he had found. If you notice the whole Zieg/Sieg aspect of the story makes little to no sense, especially the development of the fake version of him.
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Ziegfried or what ever the smeg you call him has been awarded by me the Gold Medal Of "The Most Under Developed NPC" And I'm starting to think Ultros deserves 2nd place!!
Old 10-02-2003, 03:01 PM
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Pfft, Ultros was freakin' awesome. I do wish Ziegfried had been given more development, though.

I actually didn't know about what Jenova·Rebirth posted. Interesting stuff.
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Hmmmm, Square Soft, especially back in the day of FF6, has always been pretty good at tieing up it's loose ends, maybe there is a tidbit we have all missed somewhere. If that doesn't work, maybe we can try to tieing multiple Final Fantasy games together for a moment. Granted all of the Final Fantasy games are not at all simular in story, but if you noticed they are all usually loosely based around the same general themes and ancient characters. My memory is not working properly at this moment so you guys will have to help me, but I know that sieg/zieg shows up in other games. Also, sieg/zieg was actually an ancient swords man, i can't remember the details, but i know where to find out, so i will do some research.
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Originally posted by MJN SEIFER
Ziegfried or what ever the smeg you call him has been awarded by me the Gold Medal Of "The Most Under Developed NPC" And I'm starting to think Ultros deserves 2nd place!!
Don't forget Bannon, since he just fell off the face of the earth and no one seemed to notice.
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Bannon is probably one of the most under developed PCs I mean he was the Leader of the resistants for petes sake!! they could have devoloped him a lot better and as M4tt said his Death (Asuming he did die) was't completly unnoticed the same aplies to Arvis! Gogo was pretty under devoloped too I think he was created at the last second!
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