The Interpretation of (Shadow's) Dreams *spoilers up your @$$*

-N- · 07-06-2003, 10:20 PM

So, actually I'm not going to bust out Freud here, but I just want to sum up what we think we know of Shadow's past from his dreams.

First of all, how many dreams? The max I have is 5, the 5th being in the World of Ruin when you recover him.
I got the 5th one just now, but I got the other four a long time ago, and I don't really remember them. (Been 8 months since I got those first four dreams.)

*spoiler start*

So I think the basic idea was Shadow/Baram and Clyde escaped from a jail or someplace, had a plan to strike it rich, and they did. The second part is apparently Baram had a child (Relm) or something, but I don't know how to connect the two. Any ideas?

TheAbominatrix · 07-06-2003, 10:24 PM

Spoiler: I dont know if they were criminals beforehand. But they robbed a train (perhaps the Doma railway when it was still in operation) and Clyde was injured and presumably captured. Perhaps killed. Baram made his way to... what was the name of that town again? Relm's hometown... anyway. And he seemes to be wounded as well. A woman helps him out... this woman is definitly Relm's mom in my book. They fall in love, have a baby. Something must have happened to her... perhaps she died in childbirth, and Shadow left Relm to Strago and beat feet out of town.

-N- · 07-06-2003, 10:30 PM

See, I dunno about that, because Strago lives in Thamasa. No way a railroad could get to Thamasa?

TheAbominatrix · 07-06-2003, 10:33 PM

He didnt take the railroad to Thamasa. He may have swam (he was on the Veldt when Clyde died) since the distance is so short, or perhaps found a boat. It clearly shows him in Thamasa. The town square is very very obvious.

-N- · 07-06-2003, 10:41 PM

Fair enough... I suppose that works.

Another thing, though this is more of a clarification of a rumor. I hear if you get all five dreams (in the same file... curses!) an alternate ending emerges?

MJN SEIFER · 07-06-2003, 10:48 PM

uhh I think you're getting Clyde and Barram mixed up man!!

TheAbominatrix · 07-06-2003, 10:48 PM

There's supposed to be 7. If there are, they arent in the English version, cause I've played it through at least 30 times. If you get all 7, then supposedly the ending changes and Shadow Spoiler: lives. I dunno how true it is.

m4tt · 07-06-2003, 11:34 PM

Spoiler: Baram is the one that dies, Clyde is Shadow.

And there are only 5 dreams, that 7 dreams thing is very far from the truth.

-N-	#3 (permalink) See, I dunno about that, because Strago lives in Thamasa. No way a railroad could get to Thamasa?
07-06-2003, 10:30 PM

TheAbominatrix Recognized Member Queen of Gonzo Location: Corona, California	#4 (permalink) He didnt take the railroad to Thamasa. He may have swam (he was on the Veldt when Clyde died) since the distance is so short, or perhaps found a boat. It clearly shows him in Thamasa. The town square is very very obvious.
07-06-2003, 10:33 PM

-N-	#5 (permalink) Fair enough... I suppose that works. Another thing, though this is more of a clarification of a rumor. I hear if you get all five dreams (in the same file... curses!) an alternate ending emerges?
07-06-2003, 10:41 PM

MJN SEIFER Location: The Republic of Huru.	#6 (permalink) uhh I think you're getting Clyde and Barram mixed up man!!
07-06-2003, 10:48 PM

TheAbominatrix Recognized Member Queen of Gonzo Location: Corona, California	#7 (permalink) There's supposed to be 7. If there are, they arent in the English version, cause I've played it through at least 30 times. If you get all 7, then supposedly the ending changes and Shadow Spoiler: lives. I dunno how true it is.
07-06-2003, 10:48 PM

m4tt Former Staff White & Nerdy Location: La Mesa, CA	#8 (permalink) Spoiler: Baram is the one that dies, Clyde is Shadow. And there are only 5 dreams, that 7 dreams thing is very far from the truth.
07-06-2003, 11:34 PM