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[Wolf Kanno]

Well Terra does have an affinity towards fire and Kefka does enjoy burning things.

[Flying Mullet]

If we're looking at the game from a purely fictional world standpoint and not from a gameplay/design point, I always assumed that no two Espers are created equal. Thus they can "teach" spells at different speeds.

[Edgar]

For a game mechanic that doesn't really affect your style of playing, I don't think such details should be worth a 2c about.

And I agree on what others said, ie you get Ramuh eariler etc.

[Karl_Bonner_1982]

Well I wonder if there are any hacks/patches/mods out there that alter either the spells taught by a particular Esper or the speed at which the Esper teaches a spell?

If Tritoch's spells were taught at 2x I'd have nothing to complain about. It's the fact that Fire 3 can be learned three times as fast as Ice 3 and Bolt 3 that I find to be lopsided.

[Wolf Kanno]

I don't see the big deal really. Unless you are playing a weird guide or power gaming chances are Phoenix will be the last esper you obtain with the possible exception of Ragnarok and Crusader. Thus making the extra growth only useful for getting secondary party members up to speed. Chances are a few members have already learned Fire 3 from Tritoch and god knows Terra should have naturally learned that spell by then.

Also, I'm not surprised a "flaming bird" can teach a fire spell faster than an Aztec god that's more associated with thunder. The elements given are usually associated with the deity the esper gains its name from with a few odd exceptions... Besides, Maduin is unique cause he teaches the basic level 2 elements all at once even though there are a few other espers that can teach them. Tritoch is unique cause its the only esper that teaches Ice 3 and Bolt 3. I don't see why Tritoch should be treated as an upgraded Maduin.

[NeoCracker]

Originally Posted by Karl_Bonner_1982 ^

Well I wonder if there are any hacks/patches/mods out there that alter either the spells taught by a particular Esper or the speed at which the Esper teaches a spell?

If Tritoch's spells were taught at 2x I'd have nothing to complain about. It's the fact that Fire 3 can be learned three times as fast as Ice 3 and Bolt 3 that I find to be lopsided.

If Tritoch were only x2 you'd learn those spells really early at a game breaking pace.

Where as the Fire 3 from Pheonix isn't obtained until end game anyway.

In addition, why learn Fire 3 from Phoenix instead of Tritoch Regardless? Tritoch gives the other spells as well, and unless you don't intend on teaching them Ice and Lightning 3 using Phoenix for Fire 3 is entirely pointless to begin with.

[Greatermaximus]

The learn rates are fair enough. Any faster and it would be too easy imo. I did give that a little thought. Getting Fire3 times 3 is better than nothing.

It's too bad not all of them have 'one' special magic. Like Kirin having Antidote and Scan. While Bismark's magic can be learned by many other Espers.

[Umaro_Smash]

The only thing I thought was a little peculiar was that they gave you Golem (assuming you buy it in the WoB) with Stop at a rate of x5, yet when you get Fenrir in the WoR after the Phunbaba fight, Stop is at a x3 and X-Zone is a x5.

That one made me scratch my head. It would've been redundant to give Stop a x5 with two different espers, but why make it slower to learn than X-Zone with Fenrir?