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08-25-2008, 06:41 PM
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 | God no. I'm not THAT much of a glutton for punishment. It's bad enough I go to a Final Fantasy one on occasions. As for taking it seriously, oh believe me I'm not. In fact I'm far too entertained by this for my own good. Really, should not be this entertaining. And as for the whole opinion thing, that excuse would work if everyone didn't always talk like their own personal opinions were fact. "Seven IS overrated. Seven IS the greatest. Six IS better than Seven. Six IS underrated cause not enough people love it more than Seven." At least I back my opinions up with reason and fact when need be. And when I say Six-only lover I don't mean they've literally only played Six. I mean to them Six is, again, the beginning and the end of Final Fantasy, and all others pale in comparison. Which is exactly what everyone always went crazy on the Seven fans for. Believe me, it's understandable. Fans suck, and there are a LOT of sucky Seven fans. I just want people to understand that ALL the fans suck equally. Let's not be prejudice here and think it's only Seven fans. It's actually gotten to the point where Six fans are almost, if not just, as bad. And as someone who loves both of them pretty much equally, I can give you a purely objective guarantee on that. Oh, and if you'd like further proof of that fact, you can look no further than the awesomely fanboytastic headline under the Final Fantasy VI section of this forum. It pretty much sums my entire point up perfectly. Last edited by Kenshin IV; 08-26-2008 at 06:34 AM. |
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08-26-2008, 06:15 AM
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| Banned  | Most people are capable of figuring out when people are stating facts or stating their opinions without having it spelled out for them. Nobody looks at "Final Fantasy z is the best ever" and thinks "That guy is totally stating a fact and not his opinion." Also, if discussion is somehow a punishment for you, you're more than welcome to get lost. |
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08-26-2008, 07:12 AM
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| | Which is all well and good until your own opinions are critizied. Especially when they're critizied with nothing backing them up. Try thinking of it from this perspective. You tell me Six is your favorite, and my reaction is "AH MAH GAWD, NO WAY, SEVEN IZ DA BEST UR CRAZY!" It'd piss you off, and rightfully so. Especially when they don't give you a reason. The same thing happens all the time with those two reversed. My personal favorite is Seven, and I have no issue saying that, but I can't tell you how many times I've heard "UR NOT A TRU FAN, SEVEN IS OVERATED AH MAH GAWD, SIX ALL THE WAY!" If I had a nickle for everytime I heard that I'd be rich. Especially since Six is my next favorite by only a small margin, and about 90% of the fools I've heard that from over the years aren't even as big of fans of Six as I am. My only point here is there ARE things Seven does better than Six. There ARE also things Six does better than Seven. And there ARE things that other games do better than either. You might think one is overrated, but that doesn't make you right. Seven deserves the credit it gets, and so does Six, mainly because each game offers a deep and rich story that you wouldn't expect in a video game. Especially for their eras. THAT is fact, whether you find anything to relate to it, or find any entertainment value in it (deja vu?) is your own opinion. If you tell me Six is your favorite, I won't argue it because I can completely see why. If you tell me Four is your favorite, I'd say the same thing. If you told me Nine was your favorite, I'd even tell you the same thing. And so on and so forth. I would tell you I don't necessarily agree with you, but I can see where you're coming from. Now, can you see yourself saying that to someone who's favorite is Seven? Be honest with yourself now. And discussion isn't a punishment when you're talking rationally with someone. Which is extremely rare on a fanboy forum. I've already noticed you like to not do that when someone disagrees with you on something. And saying that FF6 or Chrono Trigger is better looking technically than FF7 isn't rational. It's dumb and wrong. Yes, wrong. As in "fact," not "opinion." What you perceive as artistic value is opinion. Last edited by Kenshin IV; 08-26-2008 at 07:34 AM. |
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08-26-2008, 07:27 AM
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| Banned | The intense blistering waves of hypocracy! They burn! AAUGH! See, that falls under the heading of "things that can only be opinion because they are 100% subjective." You're the one who decided the best way to deal with that was personal insults, not me, ducky. |
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08-26-2008, 07:51 AM
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| | You keep trying, champ. Like I said, saying it's technically better looking is wrong. Unless you wanna try telling me Super Mario Bros. 3 is better looking technically than Final Fantasy X. Because that is more or less what you're saying. Artistic is another story. Funny you omitted that part from your little quote there. You can tell me Okami is artistically better looking than Gears of War, but you can't tell me it is technically. If you want an example of two games closer in generation. And now to talk to someone new, since I completely didn't see this person talking to me, and it would be rude to not reply: Kay. Not my fault you're put off with Final Fantasy VII by games that aren't Final Fantasy VII. I despise the "compilation," but I can certainly disregard it. And sure Square cares about Seven more than any other title, it's their biggest cash cow. That also isn't at all what I was talking about. I was talking about the fans perception, not the company's. I could care less what the corporation thinks. They're in it for the dollar, always have been and always will be. Why do you think you keep getting ports and remakes over and over again? Which happen to be of pretty much every Final Fantasy game. Not to make you happy, that's for sure. Deal with it. Last edited by Kenshin IV; 08-26-2008 at 08:29 AM. |
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08-26-2008, 08:01 AM
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| Banned | Because 3D isn't inherently superior to 2D, otherwise the original Wolfenstein would be better looking than Street Fighter III. Good 2D is better than bad 3D. |
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08-26-2008, 04:56 PM
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