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Old 08-24-2008, 07:59 AM
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Meh, I just like FFVI cuz it's my kinda game. I always make sure to completely ignore internet reviews of games until I'm at least a couple hours into the game, VI was no exception. I first played VI on the PSX and hated it due to load times/the fact that (as a stupid 9-year-old) I thought you spent the whole game in Magitech armor (which still bug me to this day)

I like the cast because it gives you a variety of characters.Even XII, which has 3 of my favorite characters of all time, the other 3 are probably among my least favorite. VI is great in that if you don't like Character X, then don't use him. And although I would never EVER use the word 'deep' to describe most of the protagonists of VI, some of them do have some complivation to them. Most of the characters I like (Locke, Sabin, Edgar, Shadow, etc.) are due to their personalities.

Kefka holds a special place in my heart because he gets more accomplished than most villains-- while being the comic relief character. And he's a pretty good comic relief too (don't mention Ultros, I really don't like him)

I personally like VI alot more than IV. I think IV is more overrated than VI. IV was a really good game, don't get me wrong. I just don't get how it's SO many peoples' favorite game in the series...
Old 08-24-2008, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeromus_X ^
Actually, I'm inclined to agree with Kanno here. Also, we don't call people "retarded fanboys" on this forum. Don't do it again.
WE call them pickled face penis punchers. ^)^

Really though, I don't think it's overrated in the slightest.

I agree having a ton of characters isn't always great, but in FF VI they managed to give everone the screen time they deserved, and developed them all rather well in the time given.

Not like, say for example, Chrono Cross where everyone said the same thing with a slightly varied accent, with the acception of a few scenes.
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Originally Posted by Kenshin IV ^
A game like Six can't be "underrated" when it's considered by virtually everyone to be one of the greatest games ever created. Seven can't be "underrated" for exactly the same reason. Both games receive their due praise, because both games are equally brilliant. Yes, fanboys, BOTH games CAN be brilliant.
Actually, yeah, it can be considered "underrated" even if it is well loved. That's because vi is the one stuck having to to play second fiddle to vii, as the majority consensus is that vii is the be-all-end-all of FF games. Those of us who prefer vi by a fairly wide margin over vii (vi is my favorite, and I think that vii is a mediocre game at best) can be annoyed by the fact that vi, or any other FF game for that matter, will never get quite the recognition that vii gets. When we consider vi to be vastly superior, we can indeed call it underrated when a game we don't think nearly as highly of is always held up as the FF game. It's not an issue of only "one or the other" can be good, it's that I truly am not fond of vii, completely independent of how I feel about other FF game. I think vii is overrated because it holds the number one spot for the majority (not just the number one spot, but the "this is the only FF game that matters" spot for many), and vi is underrated because it doesn't hold the number one spot, but should.

And yes, of course that's based on our opinions. How good or bad you consider a game is completely subjective, there's no need to tell me that as if it changes how I feel. So in my opinion, as well as the opinion of plenty of people, vi us underrated and vii is overrated. Since it's all subjective, it isn't worth arguing about which game is really better or deserves the number one spot the most. But don't try to argue that people can't think of their favorite game as underrated when they have a perfectly legitimate reason to.
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No, it can't. Saying Final Fantasy VI is underrated compared to Final Fantasy VII is like saying Star Wars is underrated compared to The Empire Strikes Back. And thank you for also proving my point.

There are PLENTY of people who believe Six to be the "end-all-be-all" in the franchise, and the gap has narrowed considerably. That excuse being used solely for Seven was valid in the late 90's, and has been void for years. It still amazes me how all the Six-only lovers have turned into the exact same thing as what they've always hated for years: The Seven-only lovers, and yet still haven't realized it.

You fanboys have to stop with your ridiculous notion that Seven is the only thing anyone cares about, and every other title walks in it's shadow.


Oh, and by the by, it's made even more awesome when all this arguing is taking place between two games from the same franchise with virtually the same core dev teams. It might hurt you all just a bit, but Six and Seven happen to be more similar to each other than they are to any other games in the franchise. And just to hurt you a bit more, the next most similar game to either of them would happen to be Eight.

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Old 08-25-2008, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenshin IV ^
No, it can't. Saying Final Fantasy VI is underrated compared to Final Fantasy VII is like saying Star Wars is underrated compared to The Empire Strikes Back. And thank you for also proving my point.
You haven't been to a Star Wars forum in awhile have you?

There are PLENTY of people who believe Six to be the "end-all-be-all" in the franchise, and the gap has narrowed considerably. That excuse being used solely for Seven was valid in the late 90's, and has been void for years. It still amazes me how all the Six-only lovers have turned into the exact same thing as what they've always hated for years: The Seven-only lovers, and yet still haven't realized it.

You fanboys have to stop with your ridiculous notion that Seven is the only thing anyone cares about, and every other title walks in it's shadow.


Oh, and by the by, it's made even more awesome when all this arguing is taking place between two games form the same franchise with virtually the same core dev teams. It might hurt you all just a bit, but Six and Seven happen to be more similar to each other than they are to any other games in the franchise. And just to hurt you a bit more, the next most similar game to either of them would happen to be Eight.
LIES! VI IS TEH BESTES!!! Seriously your breaking my heart here with your sound and astute logic that bears the absolute certainty that the gods have bestowed upon us, I think I've been brought to tears by your conviction

You apparently don't grasp the concept of Opinion - Definitions from Dictionary.com

Kidding aside, I respect that you feel this way about the subject in hand but I ask you also respect that others share a different view and you must accept it may never change to your liking. The fact of the matter is, this forum is about a series of games that people enjoy and though many of us feel strongly about our views of the games; I think most of understand that our bantering is all in good fun (for me at least) and should not be taken to so serious as to outright attack people. In other words... "Why so serious, son?"
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Originally Posted by Kenshin IV ^
There are PLENTY of people who believe Six to be the "end-all-be-all" in the franchise, and the gap has narrowed considerably.
I've never heard of a "VI only lover." Never. Yeah, I'm sure there are people here and there who have played vi and haven't considered playing others or don't like any other FF game, but they have to be few and far between. If vi is really comparable to vii in terms of popularity, where are the movies and spinoffs? Oh, they don't exist because vi isn't the cash cow that vii is because (wait for it.....) vi isn't as popular. It just doesn't have the legions of fanpersons (let's try to be politically correct here) who will throw money at everything that has cloud or sephiroth in it. vii's popularity will always overshadow vi's, and yes, as I very thoroughly explained already, that is cause for some people to feel that vi is underrated. Not getting the due that you feel it deserves=being underrated. Not sure how that one didn't get through.
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Originally Posted by Kenshin IV ^
You fanboys have to stop with your ridiculous notion that Seven is the only thing anyone cares about, and every other title walks in it's shadow.
Don't forget, VII was the first game out in PAL territories. The first six, by the time of their release, looked dated and obsolete, even with graphical updates and whatnot. VIII was poorly received if memory serves (it might not), nobody got IX because it was a pastiche on games many of them had never played and once X came out, the franchise was so far removed from its roots that nobody stopped to notice these classics. I'm not even sure if the PSX and GBA ports even sold well, and FFIII DS' reviews in England went along the lines of "we don't know what the fuss is about".

Ask any British player what a Black Mage is and there's a good chance they'll say "Vivi"... makes sense, he's basically a 3D version of the FF5 sprite. Hell, I spoke to a lot of people who thought Vivi's appearance was "original", because we didn't get any of the first five games with Black Mages in them. Oh yeah, we didn't get FF Tactics either.

Personally I've been very put off VII by the compilation. And the fanboys are partially right: VII is the only one Square Enix cares about, as it's the one making them the money. Deal with it.

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