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#1  FFV theories Yeah i'm just kinda pinching threads from other forums  Neo X-Death = Enuo ??? Neo X-Death = Physical manifestation of the void?? Or Neo X-Death = X-Death and the void as a single entity?? We know that Enuo once had the power to CONTROL the void. X-Death attempts this and is engulfed by the void. His motives then change from wanting to have absolute power to control the world to simply wanting to erase everything including himself. This to me is the void talking. My guess would be that the void has taken X-Deaths free will and can now control itself after merging with X-Death. But did this happen with Enuo? I'm sure it didn't. Thoughts Also, it occured to me that the Blue magic spell Explosion (anthology) only KO's a character when used. So Gilgamesh would only have been KO'd after the battle with Necrophobe and isn't actually dead. But his speech to our heroes certainly implies that he is going to die. Thoughts |
02-03-2006, 10:40 AM
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 | There are a lot of things loike the explosion in most of the Final Fantasys. Especially when you play X and X-2 how people can get shot in a battle and only a bit of hp goes but outside of a battle they die forever... But it's all good, its just a small plot hole and doesn't detract from the game. |
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02-04-2006, 12:00 AM
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 | I still believe that Neo X-Death is either Enuo or the pysical manifestation of the Void. Just because of his name being the same, dosn't mean that he is the same guy. The name X-Death comes from 'exceeding death', so the name could belong to anyone who has done so. Plus 'Neo' means new........so the full name is 'New Exceeding Death'. |
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02-04-2006, 03:35 AM
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| Banned  | I remember hearing about theory somewhere that ExDeath may actually have been a reincarnation of Enuo. The main concept behind the theory is that when Enuo was defeated 1000 years before the game starts, his spirit somehow ended up in the Mua Forest. It would then possess the tree that would later become ExDeath. The main problem with this theory however is that a villager in Mirage town gives us the following info on Enuo’s demise: As you can see, Enuo wasn’t sealed at all; he met his end at the hands of the Void. Unless someone can come up with a logical reason as to why he would then end up in the Mua Forest, this theory ultimately remains rather flawed. The main points this theory has going for it is that it is chronologically possible (Enuo being defeated 500 years before ExDeath’s ‘birth’) and the fact that ExDeath and Enuo have very similar goals. ExDeath also seems to have a decent knowledge of how to obtain the power of the Void, something you would only expect Enuo to know. |
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02-18-2006, 09:57 AM
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 | Although I previosly posted my thoughts in the linked thread, I feel I should take the opportunity to bring them together in a single post. ********** Neo Ex-Death is the physical embodiment of the Void. This is, in my estimation, the only reasonable conclusion one can reach reach regarding the final boss of Final Fantasy V, and I will do my best to explicate this opinion in the following paragraphs. Both X-Death and Enuo are notable, for the purposes of this explanation, for sharing a desire for power and ascendancy. Both see the Void as a means to achieve this ascendancy; dialogue from the game supports this idea. and... Likewise, both seemed to have been defeated by heroes (Bartz and company in the case of Ex-Death; the precursor heroes who wielded the Legendary Weapons in the case of Enuo), only to meet their true ends as a result of the power of the void. and... (At this point, Ex-Death is basically absorbed by the Void) Neo Ex-Death, however, seems to have no interest in the motivations of Enuo or Ex-Death. Rather, Neo Ex-Death seems only concerned with destruction and negation. These would certainly be odd sentiments for either Enuo or Ex-Death. However, if one assumes (as I am throughout this post) that Neo Ex-Death is the embodiment of the Void, one must consider how and why this development came about. After all, prior to the incident with Enuo, there is no evidence (presented in the game, at least) of the Void having any real influence. The answer, I believe, rests with the ambiguous matter of when the Void came into existence. One could argue that, if not begotten, it at least predates the world; the ending suggests as much. However, Guido's explanation regarding Enuo would seem at odds with this statement. Given that Guido states that Enuo "[created] the Void," the ending statement becomes problematic. This apparent contradiciton, however, can be resolved by distinguishing between the "original Void" and the Void Enuo created. My argument, essentially, is that Enuo somehow changed the Void, granting it an awareness. His Void was a manufactured entity, the original nothingness of the universe given purpose. As the Void is negation, a desire to return everything, including itself, to nothingness makes sense. This desire, needless to say, is exactly the sentiment expressed by Neo Ex-Death before the final battle. Another argument in favor of this notion, as well as one that would seem to deconstruct any case for Neo Ex-Death being a form or reincarnation of either Ex-Death or Enuo, lies with the previously explored fact that both were effectively devoured by the Void after seeking its powers. Both met the same fate, and the problem of the Void itself was left to be handled. Again recall Guido's statement on Enuo... Presumably, the defeat of Enuo was much the same as that of Ex-Death. After the villain was battered by the heroes, it was absorbed into the Void. The final difference lies in the ability of Bartz and company to actually defeat Neo Ex-Death itself, whereas the precursor heroes of 1000 years ago could only seal the manifested embodiment of Void. The ending again attests to this. In spite of Ex-Death serving as the primary antagonist throughout the game, the critical action of the party involves stopping the Void (which, clearly, Neo Ex-Death embodies), with Ex-Death suddenly nothing more than incidental. ************** This ends the primary argument for Neo Ex-Death being the embodiment of the Void as pertains solely to FFV. However, I feel that the mysterious final boss of FFIX, Necron, also seems to help bring this view of Neo Ex-Death into focus. Consider this excerpt from my essay, "FFIX and the Implicit Reference." That particular essay argues primarily that certain plot points from previous Final Fantasy installments (most commonly FFs IV and V) were in various ways recycled in the FFIX plot; they became "implicit references," as opposed to explicit references like bosses named Lich, Marilith, Tiamat, and Kraken (FFI), or the story of Josef (FFII) being retold by Ramuh. Central to this debate, however, is the similarity between Necron and Ex-Death. Both are entities that seemingly appear out of the blue; neither had an obvious hand in the stories until they appeared for the final battles. However, if one accepts my arguments for the connection between Neo Ex-Death and Necron, it suggests that this argument for Neo Ex-Death being the embodiment of the Void is accurate. Moreover, this would seem to explain Neo Ex-Death's interest in memory. Erasing memory seems to be a minor threat compared to that of deleting "all existence, all dimensions." In the context of FFIX, however, where memory is directly linked to all life and its origins, this becomes more clear. Given that all originates from the Crystal in FFIX, the reexamination of FFV's Crystals at the end also takes on new significance. In this context, then, it seems very clear that Neo Ex-Death is the embodiment of the Void, and separate from Enuo or Ex-Death (other than having absorbed them). No one, after all, would argue that Necron is actually another form of Garland or Kuja. *************** Thus, as repeatedly stated throughout the needlessly long and convoluted "essay" above, I feel that Neo Ex-Death is the embodiment of the Void. As regards the matter of Gilgamesh, one could argue as to the canonicity of his death. Necrophobe can be defeated before Gilgamesh shows up, and there is no FFV Ultimania that might serve to confirm the matter. In my opinion, however, Gilgamesh dying is probably what the creators intended. As for the possibility of the party reviving Gilgamesh, one would have to question why Necrophobe, or any other boss, could not being similarly resurrected. In fact, via use of a Blood Sword, Galuf can finish his fatal fight with Ex-Death and have more than 0 HP. Of course, he still dies. The conclusion one must reach is that their is a divorce between story and gameplay elements (there usually is), and that Gilgamesh's sacrifice was the closest a gameplay element could come to expressing what was really an element of story. |
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02-19-2006, 04:02 AM
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but i thought maybe some people who joined later might have some theories of their own 
