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[Marshall Banana]

Originally Posted by Necronopticous ^

Learning Blue Magic: Transfusion

Pure Hell. This is toughest part of the challenge so far, but it was very satisfying to finally pull off. Get your calculator ready and type in 600 to start.

Encountered Mythril Dragon x 3 in the forests surrounding the Library of the Ancients.

Began the battle with Faris releasing Mindflusher. If it failed to confuse one of the Mythril Dragons, I'd reset.

Lenna was always the next turn for me, so I'd immediately have her get a Phoenix Down ready to be used on the confused Mythril Dragon and wait for him to use Transfusion. If, during this wait, a party member was killed off by the other dragons or the confused dragon attacked himself, I'd reset.

As soon as I saw Transfusion being used, I'd confirm the Phoenix Down use on the confused Mythril Dragon. If I didn't see Lenna's HP fill to max, I'd reset.

If I had not reset the game at this point, I felt that I had a good chance of finally getting this battle out of the way. The Mythril Dragon which was just brought back to life with the Phoenix Down requires four slashes from the Whip before he can be caught, so I got those off as soon as possible, using Lenna to feed the other members Phoenix Downs and Potions as necessary throughout the remainder of the battle. After the revived Mythril Dragon had been whipped four times, I chose another Mythril Dragon and focused any other Whip slashes I had before Faris' next turn on him, subtracting off the damage of each of them from the 600 previously entered in my calculator. On Faris' turn, I caught the revived Mythril Dragon.

With two Mythril Dragons left, I concentrated Whip slashes on the one I'd chosen earlier, carefully calculating away the damage of each strike while Lenna kept everyone alive and healthy with Phoenix Downs and Potions. After roughly 13 slashes, the Mythril Dragon I'd been focusing on was at around 310-320 HP. At this point, I'd allow Faris to release her previously caught Mythril Dragon and quickly focus any other Whip slashes until her next turn on the Mythril Dragon I'd neglected until now until Faris' following turn, on which I'd catch the one I'd been focusing on.

Now that there was only one left, I allowed Galuf to release Jackanapes and ensured that Bartz was at full HP. When the Doom counter was at around 20, I slashed the last Mythril Dragon with a whip, hoping for Hold status, and quickly had everyone other than Bartz kill themselves off, and had Bartz defend until 0 on the counter, ready to use a potion if a hit did come his way.

When the battle was over, I rejoiced.

[Ultima Shadow]

Originally Posted by Necronopticous ^

Learning Blue Magic: Transfusion

Pure Hell. This is toughest part of the challenge so far, but it was very satisfying to finally pull off. Get your calculator ready and type in 600 to start.

Encountered Mythril Dragon x 3 in the forests surrounding the Library of the Ancients.

Began the battle with Faris releasing Mindflusher. If it failed to confuse one of the Mythril Dragons, I'd reset.

Lenna was always the next turn for me, so I'd immediately have her get a Phoenix Down ready to be used on the confused Mythril Dragon and wait for him to use Transfusion. If, during this wait, a party member was killed off by the other dragons or the confused dragon attacked himself, I'd reset.

As soon as I saw Transfusion being used, I'd confirm the Phoenix Down use on the confused Mythril Dragon. If I didn't see Lenna's HP fill to max, I'd reset.

If I had not reset the game at this point, I felt that I had a good chance of finally getting this battle out of the way. The Mythril Dragon which was just brought back to life with the Phoenix Down requires four slashes from the Whip before he can be caught, so I got those off as soon as possible, using Lenna to feed the other members Phoenix Downs and Potions as necessary throughout the remainder of the battle. After the revived Mythril Dragon had been whipped four times, I chose another Mythril Dragon and focused any other Whip slashes I had before Faris' next turn on him, subtracting off the damage of each of them from the 600 previously entered in my calculator. On Faris' turn, I caught the revived Mythril Dragon.

With two Mythril Dragons left, I concentrated Whip slashes on the one I'd chosen earlier, carefully calculating away the damage of each strike while Lenna kept everyone alive and healthy with Phoenix Downs and Potions. After roughly 13 slashes, the Mythril Dragon I'd been focusing on was at around 310-320 HP. At this point, I'd allow Faris to release her previously caught Mythril Dragon and quickly focus any other Whip slashes until her next turn on the Mythril Dragon I'd neglected until now until Faris' following turn, on which I'd catch the one I'd been focusing on.

Now that there was only one left, I allowed Galuf to release Jackanapes and ensured that Bartz was at full HP. When the Doom counter was at around 20, I slashed the last Mythril Dragon with a whip, hoping for Hold status, and quickly had everyone other than Bartz kill themselves off, and had Bartz defend until 0 on the counter, ready to use a potion if a hit did come his way.

When the battle was over, I rejoiced.

...if that's even half as bad as it sounds, then "pure hell" is an understatement. And I got a feeling it's, in fact, way worse than it sounds. =O

...which leads me to a question: when will, if ever, Transfusion actually be needed?




As for my own progress, I burnt Shiva to dust by throwing 2 Fire Rods at her.

I finally got Moon Flute after a few failed attempts. I kept killing the guy too early with my Blastoise (otherwise known as Grass Tortoise).

Ifrit got his ass kicked by Ice 2 + Ice Rod.



Next up: Byblos and getting Magic Hammer.

[Necronopticous]

Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow ^

...which leads me to a question: when will, if ever, Transfusion actually be needed?

I don't believe that Transfusion will ever be used, but half of the challenge is collecting all of the Blue Magic without accumulating any extra EXP or ABP!

[Ultima Shadow]

Originally Posted by Necronopticous ^

I don't believe that Transfusion will ever be used, but half of the challenge is collecting all of the Blue Magic without accumulating any extra EXP or ABP!

Aha, so you're going for a complete Blue Magic collection on top of everything else!

Is there any non-boss Blue Magic that you can miss completely? While I'd like to go for a full Blue Magic collection as well, I do have lots of work and such things coming up that I have to do, so I'd prefere to focus mainly on just getting trough the game as a start (since that's my main goal), and start collecting the remaining Blue Magic spells afterwards.

[Necronopticous]

It's hard to say whether or not you can miss any Blue Magic. I don't think that there are many (or any) that you can miss completely in a normal game, however, in this challenge the encounters from which you can learn them are all very specific since you have to be able to win the battle without picking up any EXP or ABP. I just don't know the game well enough to be able to say whether key encounters will be gone from the game later on.

[Ultima Shadow]

Ah well, I'll just collect as many as possible when I'm done beating the game then.

Finally beat Byblos... and got Magic Hammer as well.

Used the exactly same strat as Necro here, so yeah. It took me lots of tries though, since Byblos kept using that move that takes everyone out instantly. =(

[Necronopticous]

Now you get to steal for eternity so that you have enough gil for everything. ;]

[Ultima Shadow]

Got up to 99 Silver Bows twice so far. Ugh. I'm not sure how much money actually is needed, but... I think I'll do this one more time, then I'll go for the ethers.

Edit: Oh yeah, you really need those rings that cost 50,000 each. Ouf. >_>