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[Del Murder]

Originally Posted by Big D

Yeah, Kain's relationships with Cecil, Rosa and the King made him pretty vulnerable to being manipulated against them. Cecil's his best friend, but he's engaged to Kain's ex-girlfriend Rosa, who Kain still cares for deeply, as a friend. The King wanted Kain to become a Dark Knight; instead, he followed in his father's footsteps as a Dragoon.

What part of the game is this all stated? Is it something that wasn't translated right? I don't ever remember Kain being mentioned with Rosa or the king, at least not anything specific.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Cain talks about how he chose to become a Dragon Knight instead of a Dark Knight before you leave Baron at the beginning of the game. His relationship with Rosa, though, is only fully explained in an official supplementary book to FFIV; I can't remember the title offhand.

[theundeadhero]

Somebody please mention the title and I will spend lots of money to buy it and tell you all about it. Maybe around a campfire, with hotdogs and stuff. I know it was mentioned in a thread here 3 years ago, but that doesn't help very much.

[Roogle]

That book would be in Japanese, so it wouldn't be that much use unless you could read in Japanese...

[Flashback007]

Originally Posted by Super Delete

What part of the game is this all stated? Is it something that wasn't translated right? I don't ever remember Kain being mentioned with Rosa or the king, at least not anything specific.

This isn't stated in the game itself I believe. Or maybe in the begining, but in the gameguide you get with FFIV, it is. He said he followed his father and I also remember something from he had a thing with Rosa.

[theundeadhero]

I know it's in Japanese, no problem. It'll be a slow a grueling task translating page by page. Much like what I'm doing with xenogears perfect works right now.

[Saint_007]

I'll go with "supressed envy towards Cecil". Love of a woman was what caused Troy to fall, after all

You know, Kain is just awesome. I had only one problem with him and Golbez:

Golbex: Uhm, so after all this mess, we'd like to say we're sorry about the crystals thing. And kidnapping Rosa. And the thing with the King. Oh, and sorry about that thing with me trying to double-cross you after you brought me the Earth crystal...

Kain: Will you ever forgive us Cecil?

Me: ...

Rosa: It wasn't their fault! I forgive them!!

All: Yay!!

How I would have liked to end this:

Me/Cecil: Aw, hell, that's history now! Ya know, forgive and forget...

Golbez & Kain: Really?!

Me/Cecil: BTW, can you help me with something?

Kain: Just name it, best buddy!!

Me/Cecil: Well, it's just... *grabs both Kain and Golbez's throats in a vice grip*

Golbez: Uhm, Wow, nice grip, bro'...

Kain: Cecil... what about *gurk*

Me/Cecil: How about helping me with my ANGER MANAGEMENT?!

*Thirteen minutes later*

Me/Cecil: There, now, wasn't that better? I know I feel relieved...

Rosa: CECIL!? HOW COULD YOU?!

*Scene pans to a broken Kain and Golbez*

Me/Cecil: Well, like I said, forgive and forget. Now if you'll forgive my temper outburst, and Oliver and Stanley over here forget about their intense pain and get back to work, we can go back to kicking Zemus' sorry ass...

Golbez: Ow... he always like this?

Kain: I can remember a time some guy called him "shorty". 10 minutes later, Cecil was the taller one. By the way, can you remove your hand from my liver?

Golbez: I would, except that it's been broken in three places and dislocated at the elbow. And the fact that your buddy just wielded your knee to my elbow isn't helping...

[Odaisé Gaelach]

If I remember correctly, Kain only comes under Globez's influence when Cecil is a Paladin. Because he's from the white side and Globez is from the dark side, maybe he can't posess someone so good.

And who does he posess instead? The dragoon Kain.