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thanks. my biggest problem is i,ve never had a situation to use them yet so i,ve never learned it. Spoiler:  i hate the item drop encounter in this game and i wanna marry Rydia
Old 06-28-2004, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aeris2001x2
yep Kawaii thats what i meant and i agree with what u say against it, makes alot of sense. I just dont like Zemus having no personality.
He's only in the game for a short moment. It's hard to give him a personality in 2 seconds.
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yeah thats why i dont like it. reminds me of Spoiler:  Ultimecia in ff8 who sucked
Old 06-28-2004, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
I think what he means is that it would have been better if Spoiler: Zemus had actually spoken through Golbeza while he was controlling him, instead of Spoiler: Golbeza speaking for himself, just kept along an evil path by Zemus's control. But, while that would mean Spoiler: more personality for Zemus, it would also mean that Spoiler: Golbeza wouldn't have any character at all until nearly the end of the game.
Kishi knows me too well.

I guess it was a tremendous disappointment Spoiler: to have such a badass character turn out not to be a badass at all. Okay, okay, he's still somewhatof a badass with his dark armour and his superhuman strength, but losing the "Imposing Villain" motif kind of undoes a lot of the effect of lines like "It's been such a pleasure defeating you; we must do it again sometime, and since I have the girl, there'll be a next time."

I suppose it could be argued that Spoiler: it IS Zemus speaking through Golbeza, given that his method of speech changes dramatically after the mind control spell is broken. The game doesn't develop Zemus enough for us to know.

The best solution probably would have been for us to learn more about Spoiler: Golbeza after the mind control spell is undone, and to learn more about Zemus period. Having Golbeza mosy off with FuSoYa right after the mind control spell is undone not only prevents us from seeing what he'd be like as a party member, but it prevents us from learning of his true personality. And the only time we see Zemus at all is right before Golbeza and FuSoYa defeat him and he transforms into Zeromus.

In other circumstances, I'd suggest Spoiler: eliminating the middleman entirely, since I generally hate "manipulation" stories for the most part, but that would undo a lot of the thematic purpose of FFIV.
Old 06-29-2004, 09:44 AM
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I don't think that the mind control spoiled anything. All that it means is that Spoiler: Zemus/Zeromus is the actual villain and not Spoiler: Golbez.
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Zeromus as the Spoiler: Final boss in ff2/ff4 was stupid, he came completely out of left field and it didnt lead up When i started playing this game when i was like 9 i would have though Spoiler:  golbez was the final boss but nope they took my dream away
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Speaking of Golbeze, Spoiler: having 9,999 damage inflicted on him with Meteo was amazing the first time I played it. I mean, FF4 was one of the first RPG's I played, so that stuff left an impression.
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