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[Captain Maxx Power]

With sufficient Agility and Weapon/Shield skills, it's not uncommon to be able to reach 99% Evade consistently throughout the last half of the game. Also note that your evasion is helped immensly by your Defense Multiplier, which goes up at random when you are subject to Physical attacks.

[Martyr]

Originally Posted by Maxx Power ^

With sufficient Agility and Weapon/Shield skills, it's not uncommon to be able to reach 99% Evade consistently throughout the last half of the game. Also note that your evasion is helped immensly by your Defense Multiplier, which goes up at random when you are subject to Physical attacks.

I have no earthly idea what you're talking about.
Do you?

Obviously, using a shield with Frionel all this time has been an absolut waste of energy. Maria has done nothing but carry 2 shields, since her agility raises even if she doesn't level the shields and casts only.
Her agility is great, and she attacks first and runs often. And if somebody takes a swing at her, she gets hit, like everybody else.

I do see that the Evade seems to go up as sills go up. Guy, with lv. 12 axes, great armor, who probably has been attacked 2/3 more than any other character over the course of the game (3000 HP, and I never once used friendly fire to raise it), and great stats, has 5.00% Evade, which is 2% higher than everybody else, who also have greater stats (and greater agility, because he never used a shield).

Awesome. I'm happy. But I'm 94% away from 99% evade.
I'll be honest, friend.
If he's got the best armor, ton's of times of having been attackes, and is 2/3 on the way to maxing out skill stats with his weapon, how is he going to improve that stuff by 1900% to increase his evade to what you think would be normal in the latter half of the game (He's in pandamonium)?

Answer: There is no way.

Your words are full of balogna, among other low quality meats.

[DarkLadyNyara]

*reads above post. re-reads Pandaemonium rant. shakes head.*

[Martyr]

Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara ^

*reads above post. re-reads Pandaemonium rant. shakes head.*

So you're saying that YOU believe that fairy tale crap too?

Have you played this game?

Frionel, naked, except for an Aegis shield and Excalibur, and a Thief Gauntlet which should be an evade assist, with 35 dex, lv 10 shields and lv 10 swords, right in front of me, with 5% evade.
If the rest relies on dex, which raises as monsters miss him, we can laughingly assume that this number can go up by 10%. (more like 4%)

That's the best I can conceive. If Evade raises a point for each weapon level (which it doesn't or else it'd be at least 20% right now), then the grand total would be 27% Evade. That'd be impressive. Becaus eit's a mythically impossibnly high number. That'd be an entire game worth of work, and it's be impressive and impossible. I'd guess the highest evade we're looking at, in reality, is maybe about 18%. If we're lucky.

It's absolutely NO 99% Evade.

So how about one of you guys explain this system which I seem to have bypassed completely, and seems to be impossible to use now.

Because I'm getting tired of everybody looking at me funny and saying, "What? You don't dodge all the attacks of the monsters by wearing virtually nonexistant armor and assuming that, as usual, your characters are never going to be hit?"

You really must realize how absolutely bogus this sounds when the numbers don't add up, and I have a game in front of me to test and ebunk your ridiculous theories with.

[DarkLadyNyara]

Look, don't ask for help if you don't want it. It's annoying. Also, seeing as you haven't beaten the game, you might try not acting like you know more than people who have.

[Martyr]

Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara ^

Look, don't ask for help if you don't want it. It's annoying. Also, seeing as you haven't beaten the game, you might try not acting like you know more than people who have.

Seeing as I now HAVE beaten the game, I'm prepared to act like I know everything!

It took 8 Elixirs to maintain Frionel's MP for healing, and I made sure I was full of life for EVERY fight. I leveled around Pandemonium until I got Awesome Evade Diamond Armor and Ribbons/Goldpins from the Q. Lamias, which meant getting scared and warping out and restarting a lot, actually, but whatever. It had to be done.
I found out that the killer Riders aren't as prominent as I had feared, and I absolutely TROUNCED everybody else without using shields or high dex.
And when I found the Emperor, I KILLED him. DED: Dead.


And now, NOW, I really still do want to know how the evade trick is possible. Because I still don't see how it works.
I mean, is it just something that has to be built up from the very start? Or what?

[DarkLadyNyara]

Alright, I was needlessly bitchy. Sorry. But I was a rather irritated by your attitude. Asking someone to clarify something is fine. Attacking people who are trying to give advice ("Your words are full of balogna" "fairy tale crap" "your ridiculous theories" et cetera) is out of line.

And, yeah, it is best to start building it up early on. Also, evade level, and evade percent are bassed off different things. I'm not the best one to ask about game mechanics, however. I'm lousy at explaining them.

BTW, congrats on beating the game.

[Martyr]

Alright. Maybe some of my attitude from my less than pleasant gaming experience was bleeding over into my posting.

I'll try to be nicer on the forums. Or, at the very least, less annoying.

On another note:

If anybody else knows statistics on the evade deal, I'm still interested.

Thanks ya'll.