What's up with Ultima? - Page 2

RubyLapiz · 07-25-2006, 09:08 PM

I think part of the problem is you can only use ultima with one person, so it's hard to compare between the characters' stats.

DJZen · 07-26-2006, 01:58 AM

I've done this in the NES version. Here, observe.

I should note that DkKnights have no elemental resistances or weaknesses, and Frioniel's stats were all maxed (weapon skills and magic skills included). I even tried decreasing various stats and it had no effect. Ultima's damage is just plain screwey if you ask me.

Sephex · 07-26-2006, 03:53 AM

I thought I was the only person who noticed that Ultima is screwy in this game.

RubyLapiz · 07-26-2006, 05:55 AM

did you do it with all four characters? It'd be sorta neat and weird and sucky if each character had a bit that was turned off and leonheart had that bit turned on and when he used ultima it did like 300000awregl;ksadg;lsad dmg ;o

Sephiroth1999AD · 07-26-2006, 09:30 AM

DJZen: Wow, the damage done by Ultima is really low there. So all this fuss about unsealing Ultima and Spoiler: Minh sacrificing himself for a nearly useless spell?

In my game of FFII DoS, Holy and Flare both did a lot more damage than Ultima even when they were on lower levels.

DJZen · 07-27-2006, 09:23 AM

Well they've dug up more info on the DoS version, and they've figured out that in that version Ultima is dependant on all of your stats and magic skill levels. Frankly I think that's a stupid way to do it. It makes you do too much training.

Sorry, in the FC version Ultima is just pathetic. In DoS it starts out doing a very good amount of damage, but as you level it up it doesn't do much better, while Flare and Holy become MUCH better.

Peter_20 · 07-28-2006, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Paul

i had heard it was white magic?

What the hell is that sad smiley doing there?

Yes, it counts as white magic in this game.
At least I tend to raise my Spirit from using it.

EDIT:
Why does everybody think Ultima sucks?
ULTM 1 does deal 2000% more damage than FIRE 1, after all.

Zeromus_X · 07-28-2006, 06:20 PM

Because it does suck. In the original version, anyway.

RubyLapiz Site Staff Cid's Knight Dusk and Starshine Location: Don't forget you're not alone	#9 I think part of the problem is you can only use ultima with one person, so it's hard to compare between the characters' stats.
07-25-2006, 09:08 PM

DJZen HEIDEGGER SI MY BISHI!!!1 Location: Under your bed	#10 (permalink) I've done this in the NES version. Here, observe. I should note that DkKnights have no elemental resistances or weaknesses, and Frioniel's stats were all maxed (weapon skills and magic skills included). I even tried decreasing various stats and it had no effect. Ultima's damage is just plain screwey if you ask me.
07-26-2006, 01:58 AM

Sephex Hollow Location: On the internet, duh.	#11 (permalink) I thought I was the only person who noticed that Ultima is screwy in this game.
07-26-2006, 03:53 AM

RubyLapiz Site Staff Cid's Knight Dusk and Starshine Location: Don't forget you're not alone	#12 (permalink) did you do it with all four characters? It'd be sorta neat and weird and sucky if each character had a bit that was turned off and leonheart had that bit turned on and when he used ultima it did like 300000awregl;ksadg;lsad dmg ;o
07-26-2006, 05:55 AM

Sephiroth1999AD Beavers ate my user title Location: Finland	#13 (permalink) DJZen: Wow, the damage done by Ultima is really low there. So all this fuss about unsealing Ultima and Spoiler: Minh sacrificing himself for a nearly useless spell? In my game of FFII DoS, Holy and Flare both did a lot more damage than Ultima even when they were on lower levels.
07-26-2006, 09:30 AM

Peter_20 Location: Sweden	#15 (permalink) Originally Posted by Paul i had heard it was white magic? What the hell is that sad smiley doing there? Yes, it counts as white magic in this game. At least I tend to raise my Spirit from using it. EDIT: Why does everybody think Ultima sucks? ULTM 1 does deal 2000% more damage than FIRE 1, after all.
07-28-2006, 05:47 PM

Zeromus_X Cid's Knight Twilight Stigmata Location: Core of the Moon (Phoenix, Arizona)	#16 (permalink) Because it does suck. In the original version, anyway.
07-28-2006, 06:20 PM