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[DJZen]

Originally Posted by Peter_20

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Why does everybody think Ultima sucks?
ULTM 1 does deal 2000% more damage than FIRE 1, after all.

Uhh... Take a look at those comparison screen shots. Those aren't doctored, that's how much damage the spell does at level 16.

[Peter_20]

Originally Posted by DJZen

Originally Posted by Peter_20

EDIT:
Why does everybody think Ultima sucks?
ULTM 1 does deal 2000% more damage than FIRE 1, after all.

Uhh... Take a look at those comparison screen shots. Those aren't doctored, that's how much damage the spell does at level 16.

I know, but I still think there's a difference between a 12 DMG-dealing FIRE 1 and a 212 DMG-dealing ULTM 1.

Basically, it rules in the beginning, but sucks in the end.

[Sephiroth1999AD]

It's not like 212 HP is much damage by the time you get Ultima anyway, and its damage doesn't go much up when it gains levels. By that time your weapons will be doing 1000+ damage to the enemies, and those spells you've already leveled up in the game will be dealing hundreds of HP worth damage. Your basic spells, such as Fire, Ice and Thunder, and also the stronger spells, like Holy and Flare, will be doing a lot more damage than Ultima. In addition, the damage done by Ultima is way less than 212 HP if you cast it on a group of enemies, probably a few dozen HP.

[Peter_20]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth1999AD

It's not like 212 HP is much damage by the time you get Ultima anyway, and its damage doesn't go much up when it gains levels. By that time your weapons will be doing 1000+ damage to the enemies, and those spells you've already leveled up in the game will be dealing hundreds of HP worth damage. Your basic spells, such as Fire, Ice and Thunder, and also the stronger spells, like Holy and Flare, will be doing a lot more damage than Ultima. In addition, the damage done by Ultima is way less than 212 HP if you cast it on a group of enemies, probably a few dozen HP.

By the way, what about METEO 1?
It deals some hundreds of DMG to all of your party members at LV 1.
Therefore, it'd probably cause about 1000 DMG on a single person, and most likely 9999 DMG at LV 16.

So, METEO 1 > ULTM 16.
Pretty sad, really.

[Sephiroth1999AD]

You can't learn a spell called Meteo in the game. As far as I know, only the final boss casts a spell called Meteo 10, which is called Starfall X in the DoS version. It's his most powerful spell, and it does 500-1000 damage, although I think his physical attack does the most damage, about 1000-2000+ damage to a single character.

[DJZen]

As a note, the only effects in the game given Roman numerals are from items such as the Gaia Drum or using a spell book as an item in battle. This means that this effect comes from an enchanted item of some sort in the Emperor's posession.

[boys from the dwarf]

most people who try to figure out how ultima works go insane and cut their legs off with spoons. just dont try. as said above its a completely screwy spell and makes no sense. youd probly go crazy just by seeing the damage formula let alone understanding it. i doubt even gameFAQs.com has the formula.

[DJZen]

Only 2 people in the world understand Ultima. One's dead, the other went insane and nearly killed himself.